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Old 06-29-2011, 07:40 AM
 
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Tea Party's Pick: Michele Bachmann or Ron Paul?

Great article about why Ron Paul is about to pull over a major upset, and how all these polls and ratings of Bachmann and Romney are meaningless this early in the game.

The people want Ron Paul. The media, big business, and government do not. That is why we need him to be president because he is the people's ace in the hole. He is the only one that can save this nation from monetary and financial collapse.
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Old 06-29-2011, 05:29 PM
 
Location: SC
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Tea Party's Pick: Michele Bachmann or Ron Paul?

Great article about why Ron Paul is about to pull over a major upset, and how all these polls and ratings of Bachmann and Romney are meaningless this early in the game.

The people want Ron Paul. The media, big business, and government do not. That is why we need him to be president because he is the people's ace in the hole. He is the only one that can save this nation from monetary and financial collapse.
Great article. I hope the writer is right. I would LOVE it if Ron Paul got the nomination. Imagine watching the debates between Ron Paul and Obama! Obama wouldn't be able to hold a candle to Ron Paul on the issues EVEN THO HE HAS BEEN PRESIDENT.

I knew Bachman was a RINO but reading that she voted for the stimulous bill just reaffirms my decision not to vote for her. How can any taxpayer ever trust someone who did that? Also I don't think we need any attorney's or accountants as president. They will be the LEAST likely to simplify and reduce the size of the Federal Register or cut back or get rid of the IRS.
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Old 06-30-2011, 08:00 AM
 
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Tea Party's Pick: Michele Bachmann or Ron Paul?

Great article about why Ron Paul is about to pull over a major upset, and how all these polls and ratings of Bachmann and Romney are meaningless this early in the game.

The people want Ron Paul. The media, big business, and government do not. That is why we need him to be president because he is the people's ace in the hole. He is the only one that can save this nation from monetary and financial collapse.
People who don't think Ron Paul has a chance are delusional... They fail to see the overwhelming support he has. It doesn't help that the media constantly tries to ignore him though.
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Old 07-01-2011, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Bachmann is slowly coming around based on her rhetoric. She has changed her tune and voted against the bailouts.
However, I don't like the fact, at one time she supported bailouts (Pelosis' plan), still supports the Patriot Act and wants to war monger in Afghanistan.
So shes good (conservative) on the economy, bad on civil liberties, bad on foreign policy. Although when you say economy, the money spent on the military in areas having nothing to do with protecting our borders is hurting our economy.

LMAO I'm reaching so much to find a conservative besides Ron Paul and Gary Johnson. It's a big drop from those two to Pawlenty and Bachmann as far a being conservative imo. I don't quite understand someone who says they are for smaller government while some of their important policies are the opposite.
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Old 07-01-2011, 08:34 AM
 
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LMAO I'm reaching so much to find a conservative besides Ron Paul and Gary Johnson. It's a big drop from those two to Pawlenty and Bachmann as far a being conservative imo. I don't quite understand someone who says they are for smaller government while some of their important policies are the opposite.
Its sad we have to reach to find a conservative in the party that is supposed to be conservative! In this country it feels like every four years you get a choice between two establishment candidates who have the same agenda...
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Old 07-01-2011, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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He seems to have no problem raising money and I think he'll last longer than some other candidates who won't be able to afford to go the distance. Which state primaries do you think he has a shot of carrying?
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Old 07-01-2011, 10:55 AM
 
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If I were conservative, I would agree he'd be the best candidate. As a liberal, even I like Ron Paul a lot.

But, he has no chance.

He's too old. Too many people also see him as strange, which is a real shame.

If you want a Paul running for president, groom Rand for a later election. He's your best shot.
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Old 07-01-2011, 10:00 PM
 
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Which state primaries do you think he has a shot of carrying?
The West is his strongest area by far. North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, Colorado, New Mexico, Idaho, Washington,and Oregon are his to lose. He has a good chance of sweeping most of the non-Mormon votes in Utah and Nevada although Romney will probably prevail there. I have no clue about California or Arizona, they seem more neoconish than the rest of the West.

If Paul wins though, he will have to ramp it up in the Midwest - his second strongest region. The Midwest has a strong history of anti-war conservatism, even isolationism. See Robert Taft and Charles Lindbergh. Iowa is a must win. He will have to do very well from Minnesota to Ohio.

Ironically, the South and Northeast are his worst regions despite him growing up in Pittsburgh and living in Texas most of his life. Neither region is very friendly to the libertarian wing of the party. The South because of social issues and the northeast because the GOP there dominated by big government favoring Wall Streeters and foreign policy hawks.
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Old 07-01-2011, 10:04 PM
 
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If you want a Paul running for president, groom Rand for a later election. He's your best shot.
That's the plan. If Ron doesn't break through now, Obama will probably cruise to victory against an establishment candidate with no enthusiasm. After the country is still in a malaise, it will be ripe for Rand in 2016. And he will have a ready made base to push him through thanks to his father. And unlike his father, he is trusted by many of the generic Republicans who he'll need.
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Old 07-02-2011, 04:47 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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The West is his strongest area by far. North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, Colorado, New Mexico, Idaho, Washington,and Oregon are his to lose. He has a good chance of sweeping most of the non-Mormon votes in Utah and Nevada although Romney will probably prevail there. I have no clue about California or Arizona, they seem more neoconish than the rest of the West.

If Paul wins though, he will have to ramp it up in the Midwest - his second strongest region. The Midwest has a strong history of anti-war conservatism, even isolationism. See Robert Taft and Charles Lindbergh. Iowa is a must win. He will have to do very well from Minnesota to Ohio.

Ironically, the South and Northeast are his worst regions despite him growing up in Pittsburgh and living in Texas most of his life. Neither region is very friendly to the libertarian wing of the party. The South because of social issues and the northeast because the GOP there dominated by big government favoring Wall Streeters and foreign policy hawks.
He will not come close in NM unless Johnson is out by primary time (which may very well happen) even then it is unlikely. NV will go Romney or more mainstream. There are a lot of Mormons in NV. This is true about Idaho as well. The midwest will not even come close to supporting him, again, they are very traditional and main stream. A lot is going have to do with how he does in the early going. If he is carrying any states he might be able to surprise people and pick up Ca. States like Co, the Dekotas, etc I wouldn't even venture a guess.

Nita
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