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I'll take Ron Paul seriously once he actually joins the Libertarian Party.
You know under the present system no 3rd party, no matter if it's the Libertarian Party or the Greens, has a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding. Ask your pal Ralph Nader. I'm guessing then you don't take Dennis Kucinich seriously either?
Mr. Paul has a strong ground game, early successful fund raisers, high profile legislative endorsements, GOP fellow candidates who literally are echoing Mr. Ron Paul's stead fast platform, supporters not only from 1 "party" but supporters who are democratic, libertarian, republican, and all others. Most importantly, all those people who feel kind of "snowed over" by all the failed campaign promises of Mr. Obama, realize now that ideology and rhetoric never supersedes substance and track record. Walk the walk and talk the talk. Mr. Ron Paul does just that.
Why would he join the libertarian party are they pro life.
Are they against illegal immgrantion
Was Robert Taft (Republican) Thomas Jefferson and George Washington a libertarian.
Was Pat Buchanan in 2006 running for the republican nomination or a "libertarian" he started the America First Party with many libertarian views.
The Libertarian party offers nothing because the republican and democrats control the process. Since the debates and nothing is fair in politics the Ron Paul Republicans are just going to change the Republican party once and for all.
To be for Limited, Small Government and for the party who was always PRO America first not UN thinking Globalists and Socialist.
The republican party is coming back to its conservative roots and the libertarian view which still is about Constitutional government.
AS Ron Paul said himself he considers himself a Constitutionalist not a libertarian or a republican. Then Again winning as a Republican 10 times in Congress ALLOWS HIM FULL RIGHTS TO RUN AS A REPUBLICAN!! Then again your more interested in the party politics then the actual message!
Wow, I'd love to see that happen. The RP Republicans are not going to change the Republican party no matter how hard you scream.
The problem I have is that all of these so-called, self-labeled "Libertarians" support Ron Paul... who is a member of the Republican Party... and who enables the Republican leadership to continue to do anti-Libertarian things. They are, through Ron Paul, helping to support ideas they are against.
That is the problem I have. I can't take the Libertarian ones, the vast majority of them, seriously on this matter.
Who cares who is *currently* running the Libertarian party? If someone with as high of a profile as RP runs as a Libertarian, he will get his support... and he will have a greater influence on the party as a whole. He would actually be able to shape a party rather than being someone laughed off the stage by the rest of the party establishment.
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Originally Posted by theunbrainwashed
You know under the present system no 3rd party, no matter if it's the Libertarian Party or the Greens, has a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding. Ask your pal Ralph Nader. I'm guessing then you don't take Dennis Kucinich seriously either?
Ralph is not "my pal", and Dennis shouldn't be in the Democratic Party. To be honest, the only one I commend for actually doing what he should is Bernie Sanders. He is not a liberal, and he has made that quite clear. At least he had the balls to run as an independent.
Also, this is why I support a Parliamentary system. All of these little "groups"... libertarian Republicans, socialist Democrats, family-first Republicans, green Democrats.... all of their voices get washed out by the people controlling the two parties.
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Originally Posted by lifelongMOgal
Really? A letter after someone's name means more to you than a lengthy voting record?
I support a Parliamentary system where different ideologies belong to different parties. That is how it should be.
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That just says it all doesn't it. I bet he votes straight ticket Democrat all or most of the time
Nope, I've voted third party. Hell, I've even voted Libertarian.
Nope, I've voted third party. Hell, I've even voted Libertarian.
The problem isn't the Libertarian Party, or a 3rd part/Independent party ideals, but more that the spectrum(s) are out of whack in both main parties, and that it costs nearly $1.2 million to get on every ballot as a 3rd party, aside from the extra legal fees and time to file everything. Even billionaire Ross Perot wasn't on every ballot.
Sorry, I didn't mean to further derail this thread.
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