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Old 07-11-2011, 02:30 PM
 
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In order to compromise you have to have THE MUTUAL INTEREST OF ALL PARTIES INVOLVED as your interests. The Republican Party clearly doesn't have everbody best interest involved. It's obvious they have the oil industry, the health insurance industry, and the interests of the rich and other corporations. When it comes time to pull the voting lever they have the interest of social conservatives in mind. But everybody else in America? Not so much.
It is strange that the GOP has no problem cutting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, but it's just too much of a stretch to repeal special tax breaks for oil corporations.

The GOP is full of sick people.
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:35 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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Academic success means nothing in the real world without real experience to back it up. We can thank Obama for using his cabinet and czars to prove the point. The policies of the academics has failed miserably. Most return back to academia because the real world is too tough for them.
And I see your point in bold. But I would still vote for someone that showed a strong intellectual streak than some guy who didn't study much, and uses the term "common sense" as code word for "I'm winging it and don't know what I'm talking about".

Call me an elitist, but there you are.

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I'm wondering whether anyone considers Michael Munger an anti-intellectual? Tenured professor at Duke and former chair of poli sci dept, libertarian/conservative voice and Austrian school thinker.
But you see, he not only went to college, but he actually works at one. Therefore he isn't worth listening to, at least according to some posters in this thread.
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:36 PM
 
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It is strange that the GOP has no problem cutting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, but it's just too much of a stretch to repeal special tax breaks for oil corporations.

The GOP is full of sick people.
The DNC had control of all 3 houses for how long before 2010? Why didn't THEY remove the oil subsides and other subsidies if you guys hate them so much? Got milk?
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:38 PM
 
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For the record, I think conservatives can be intellectuals. I know some smart conservatives, but for some reason most rank and file conservatives don't listen to those types, unfortunately.
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:39 PM
 
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The DNC had control of all 3 houses for how long before 2010? Why didn't THEY remove the oil subsides and other subsidies if you guys hate them so much? Got milk?
So why not get rid of them right now?
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:40 PM
 
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And I see your point in bold. But I would still vote for someone that showed a strong intellectual streak than some guy who didn't study much, and uses the term "common sense" as code word for "I'm winging it and don't know what I'm talking about".........
The only current 2012 GOP candidate who uses the phrase "common sense" consistently is Herman Cain. He has both intellect and business as well as monetary policy experience. So, your point would be what exactly?
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:40 PM
 
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For the record, I think conservatives can be intellectuals. I know some smart conservatives, but for some reason most rank and file conservatives don't listen to those types, unfortunately.
We don't listen to them because they too don't know what they are talking about. You see it's an ego thing. As soon as someone can put half of the alpphabet after their name, they think their shyt don't stink and they know EVERYTHING and are never wrong. You will NEVER hear a supposed academia intellectual admit they were wrong. NEVER!
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:41 PM
 
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So why not get rid of them right now?
Your anger is false. You guys had how many years to put something forward? How many?
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:43 PM
 
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Conservative Columnist Fears Republican Movement | CJOnline.com

Brooks is the New York Times’ conservative columnist. He was schooled at the late William F. Buckley’s National Review, William Kristol’s Weekly Standard, and Murdoch’s Washington Times.

He lists in successive paragraphs movement beliefs that distinguish it from a normal political party. Brooks refrains from calling today’s GOP a cult, but that is what it sounds like.

First evidence is ”members of this movement do not accept the logic of compromise, no matter how sweet the terms.”

Brooks next writes “members of this movement do not accept the legitimacy of scholars and intellectual authorities.”
Pure Bunk.
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:46 PM
 
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It is strange that the GOP has no problem cutting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, but it's just too much of a stretch to repeal special tax breaks for oil corporations.

The GOP is full of sick people.
The Constitution doesn't authorized Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid. They are beyong the bounds of any rational reading of the Constitution. Ergo, they SHOULD be elimiated. As far as special tax breaks for oil companies, I will assume you mean oil depletion allowance, which seems to me to be just a formm of depreciating an asset, i.e. and oil field..
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