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Old 07-27-2011, 03:36 PM
 
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lOL, you don't make the rules and you haven't been able to prove this idiotic statement of yours yet.
Tell us why YOU know better than ALL the Congresspeople Ron Paul works with everyday. NOT ONE of those people has ever uttered a word about him having a racist bone in his body. But you, someone who does not follow Ron Paul, YOU know better. LMAO
The reason the press doesn't bring this subject up anymore is they know they will get hammered for bringing it up. Why would anyone, unless they have an agenda, claim a person whose heros include MLK, Rosa Parks, and Ghandi, is a racist.


You don't understand the 14th amendment and how it applies. But then again its isn't surprising since by your posts you have no problem with theft and other illegal acts as long as they benefit you. You need to get your facts straight or at least present some. The only ones hurt by the Civil Rights Act are the ones who believe in freedom and liberty.

Why anyone person in the right mind would want to continue the policies of failure is beyond me. No one single person can turn this country around. It's about policy. Your candidates policies are proven failures. No one can debate that. (logically)
If Ron Paul thinks that part of the 14th Amendment was a bad idea I am willing to look it over and reconsider my former opinion.
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Old 07-27-2011, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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The Great Uniter!!!
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Old 07-28-2011, 03:49 AM
 
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just so i get this right.

any black who supports obama or another republican are ill informed and didnt do the homework.

its just the ones that support paul that are informed and have done the homework, right?

what if i dont like ron paul, i've done the homework on another candidate and i support him, am i still misinformed because i dont like ron paul?
No, not at all. You could quite possibly be a well informed socialist hippycrat.
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:00 AM
 
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Sadly the fact is that blacks have depression like unemployment levels (in some places) they still support Obama BLINDLY. I doubt they would ever take Paul or any other candidate seriously.

Anybody that's running against Obama is racist or if that person is Black they are a Uncle Tom.

Not a Ron Paul supporter, but that's just my opinion.
Given the number or White American candidates that Black Americans have supported in the past and continue to support you premise has no merit.

Also historically the level of unemployment has ALWAYS been higher for Black American especially during economic downturns. The saying has long been "When America catches a cold, Black people catch pneumonia".

Also given the past history of the Republican Party and their ADMITTED use of racially divisive political tactics and government policies that are one, designed to appeal to White American voters who are prejudiced against Black Americans and two, hurt the economic, social and political progress of Black Americans. It's perfectly natural for many Black Americans to be adverse to Republican politicians.

GOP: 'We were wrong' to play racial politics

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Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman apologized to one of the nation's largest black civil rights groups Thursday, saying Republicans had not done enough to court blacks in the past and had exploited racial strife to court white voters, particularly in the South.

"Some Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization," Mehlman said at the annual convention of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. "I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."

Mehlman's apology to the NAACP at the group's convention in Milwaukee marked the first time a top Republican Party leader has denounced the so-called Southern Strategy employed by Richard Nixon and other Republicans to peel away white voters in what was then the heavily Democratic South. Beginning in the mid-1960s, Republicans encouraged disaffected Southern white voters to vote Republican by blaming pro-civil rights Democrats for racial unrest and other racial problems.

GOP Wrote Off Blacks With 'Southern Strategy' -- Are They Now Writing Off Latinos, Too?

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Republican Chairman Michael Steele's Admission That the Party of Lincoln Betrayed African-Americans by 'Focusing on the White Male Vote in the South' for 40-Plus Years Predictably Draws Fire From White GOP Conservatives, But the Republicans Are Still Using Their 'Southern Strategy' -- This Time Against Hispanic Americans


By SKEETER SANDERS

An extraordinary thing happened in Chicago last Tuesday night.

In a speech at DePaul University, Michael Steele, the Republican Party's first African-American national chairman, told some 200 students that black voters "really don't have a reason" to vote for Republicans.

"We [Republicans] haven't done a very good job of really giving you one," he said.


In a remarkably candid assessment of his party's standing with black voters, Steele told his audience that the GOP had lost sight of "the historic, integral link between the party and African-Americans."

Noting that the Republican Party was founded in Ripon, Wisconsin in 1854 by anti-slavery activists, "This party was co-founded by blacks, among them Frederick Douglass," Steele said. "The Republican Party had a hand in forming the NAACP, and yet we have mistreated that relationship. People don't walk away from parties, Their parties walk away from them."

CONSERVATIVES BLAST STEELE -- FOR TELLING THE TRUTH
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Texas
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None of that mitigates Ron Paul's opposition to the 14th Amendment or the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Sorry I can't support a person that is opposed for laws that help empower and ensure the rights of all Americans but particularly people who have faced discrimination and economic, political and social disenfranchisement based on race.
The civil rights act does not ensure the rights of Americans. It takes away those rights and forces privileges onto its citizens. You don't know what a right is so why comment?

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You could have Martin Luther King Jr. himself put in a good word for Ron Paul and he wouldn't get my vote.
yet you believe a proven liar like Obama. Look up the word integrity and send that definition to Obama..

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I lived in Texas for over 20 years. I know EXACTLY where Ron Paul stands on race.
Your posts are full of incorrect information about Ron Paul which proves you don't. Your posts incorrectly state what his platform is, yet the comments continue.
Instead your answer is to continue doing things the same way and supporting candidates with destructive policies. I see no reason to believe you.
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Old 07-28-2011, 09:11 PM
 
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The civil rights act does not ensure the rights of Americans. It takes away those rights and forces privileges onto its citizens. You don't know what a right is so why comment?


yet you believe a proven liar like Obama. Look up the word integrity and send that definition to Obama..


Your posts are full of incorrect information about Ron Paul which proves you don't. Your posts incorrectly state what his platform is, yet the comments continue.
Instead your answer is to continue doing things the same way and supporting candidates with destructive policies. I see no reason to believe you.
What isn't true about Ron Paul not supporting the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

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Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) suggested Friday that he wouldn't have voted in favor of the 1964 Civil Rights Act if he were a member of Congress at the time.

Paul, the libertarian Texas Republican who formally announced Friday that he would seek the presidency for a third time, said he thought Jim Crow laws were illegal, and warned against turning strict libertarians into demagogues.

MSNBC anchor Chris Matthews pressed Paul during a TV appearance on whether he would have voted against the '64 law, a landmark piece of legislation that took strides toward ending segregation.

"Yeah, but I wouldn't vote against getting rid of the Jim Crow laws," Paul said. He explained that he would have opposed the Civil Rights Act "because of the property rights element, not because they got rid of the Jim Crow laws."
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Old 07-29-2011, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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What isn't true about Ron Paul not supporting the Civil Rights Act of 1964?
You know I am not a Paul supporter and I don't know what his views might have been in 1964, but let's be fair and realistic, 1964 was 45 years ago. Most of us have changed our minds about a lot of things since then. Or let's hope many have matured.

Nita
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Old 07-29-2011, 02:01 PM
 
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I also don't think that these black people are "educated" just because they like Ron Paul. I like some of his stances but also would never vote for him because I think his views on local communities, states rights, and the CRA are backwards and are not based in reality. It has nothing to do with his race, just like a lot of white conservatives not liking Obama doesn't have anything to do with his race. I try to learn as much as I can about as many candidates as I can, especially front runners and even some who are not.

And even though I do know that lots of people have changed their minds about race, it is because of the CRM that these minds were changed. Also I live in Atlanta GA and there are quite of few racists establishments left in this area. Mulligan's restaurant in Marietta GA, about 15 miles north of Atlanta comes to mind. They stay in business and are well patroned so the idea that racists business would not survive is false as well as many do and thrive.
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Old 07-30-2011, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I also don't think that these black people are "educated" just because they like Ron Paul. I like some of his stances but also would never vote for him because I think his views on local communities, states rights, and the CRA are backwards and are not based in reality. It has nothing to do with his race, just like a lot of white conservatives not liking Obama doesn't have anything to do with his race. I try to learn as much as I can about as many candidates as I can, especially front runners and even some who are not.

And even though I do know that lots of people have changed their minds about race, it is because of the CRM that these minds were changed. Also I live in Atlanta GA and there are quite of few racists establishments left in this area. Mulligan's restaurant in Marietta GA, about 15 miles north of Atlanta comes to mind. They stay in business and are well patroned so the idea that racists business would not survive is false as well as many do and thrive.
One thing everyone seems to be overlooking: that is a paid political announcement and was made in 2007. It has nothing to do with today. We all know paid political commercials are exactly that: someone is paid to way whatever..

As for your comment about educated blacks, I agree: I know blacks that are educated that are very conservative, others that a very liberal, they come from all sides of the aisle. I am sure there are some who support Paul, and they might be educated. There are probably some who support him that are not. Isn't this the case with most candidates. Is the commercial saying, if you are an educated black person you will support him? I certainly do not think so.

Nita
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