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Old 08-22-2011, 06:23 PM
 
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thats one of the things that draws me to paul.

as i said before i agree with him on a lot of things and im tired of the two party system.

even though paul is listed as a republican, hes a libertarian, he is not the GOP.

i like knowing that if obama wins i wouldn't have blood on my hands voting for him.

i also like knowing that if obama loses i wouldn't have helped the GOP lead us into a great depression.
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:40 AM
 
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thats one of the things that draws me to paul.

as i said before i agree with him on a lot of things and im tired of the two party system.

even though paul is listed as a republican, hes a libertarian, he is not the GOP.

i like knowing that if obama wins i wouldn't have blood on my hands voting for him.

i also like knowing that if obama loses i wouldn't have helped the GOP lead us into a great depression.
Good thinking! You'd think more people would think that way having seen the damage both status quo Republicans and Democrats have done to our country.
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Old 08-23-2011, 07:11 AM
 
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Ron Paul has (and we do as well) a dilemma: If he (somehow) wins, you know the Republican Party is going to undermine him at every opportunity (and so will the Democratic). He will have one hell of a fight on his hands (daily) just to try to accomplish anything. But it has to start with someone truly willing to change things. Enough of the empty suits/skirts who pretend and talk a good game.
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Old 08-23-2011, 08:32 AM
 
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Ron Paul has (and we do as well) a dilemma: If he (somehow) wins, you know the Republican Party is going to undermine him at every opportunity (and so will the Democratic). He will have one hell of a fight on his hands (daily) just to try to accomplish anything. But it has to start with someone truly willing to change things. Enough of the empty suits/skirts who pretend and talk a good game.
one of the guys i work with is a huge ron paul guy.

he says paul will be assassinated if he became president.
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Old 08-23-2011, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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Ron Paul has (and we do as well) a dilemma: If he (somehow) wins, you know the Republican Party is going to undermine him at every opportunity (and so will the Democratic). He will have one hell of a fight on his hands (daily) just to try to accomplish anything. But it has to start with someone truly willing to change things. Enough of the empty suits/skirts who pretend and talk a good game.
I'm not so sure.

If Ron Paul wins he comes in with a clear mandate and a lot of political capital. Already other candidates and even the president are influenced by issues Ron Paul has brought to the table.
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Old 08-23-2011, 10:07 AM
 
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Ron Paul has (and we do as well) a dilemma: If he (somehow) wins, you know the Republican Party is going to undermine him at every opportunity (and so will the Democratic). He will have one hell of a fight on his hands (daily) just to try to accomplish anything. But it has to start with someone truly willing to change things. Enough of the empty suits/skirts who pretend and talk a good game.
I think all he has to do is clear up misconceptions people have about him for example on Iran, on drug legalization, on entitlement programs, on the military in general... and a HUGE number of people who think they "don't agree with him" on everything will agree with him on a LOT more than they thought they did. If his positions are accurately explained and not spun by the media, people will find it very hard not to agree with him 100%.

For example, I'm sure he could get everyone to agree that they don't want nor are they willing to pay the federal government to run their lives and dictate lifestyle choices to them as long as they aren't hurting anyone else.

I'm sure he could get everyone to agree that if they don't think the federal government should be sticking its nose in their lives, they also would not be willing to pay to have our military stirring up trouble and killing civilians in other countries when they are not a threat to us and don't even have a military of their own.

I'm sure he could get people to agree they prefer FREEDOM over TYRANNY.

I'm sure he could get people to agree we'd like a strong currency so the purchasing power of our currency goes farther than it does right now.

I'm sure he could get people to agree they'd rather have PEACE than be at WAR all the time.

If they agree to these things all the issues the media hypes that are under these categories people will realize they more or less agree about or they'd be issues that would be handled by the states only.

People need to realize it doesn't make a difference what Paul's personal positions are on abortion or drug legalization or gay marriage as these items would be left to the states to decide.

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Old 08-23-2011, 11:16 AM
 
Location: around racist white people
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one of the guys i work with is a huge ron paul guy.

he says paul will be assassinated if he became president.
I believe him, RP seems totally different than "business as usual" type of politician.

I think he has some great ideas but I really see his own party trying hard to make sure he doesn't win the election. Remember that claim that he said bad things about black people years ago? I think they will try hard to paint him as a racist and so forth.

I think he's the best for America, he seems to want to do things totally different.
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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one of the guys i work with is a huge ron paul guy.

he says paul will be assassinated if he became president.
How many said that about Obama and luckily it has never happened or even come close for all we know. Most Pres that have been assasinated or have had attempts like Reagan and Ford plus Kennedy were not suspected.
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:30 PM
 
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I hope and pray he is elected and the voters give him an undeniable mandate that both the parties will heed.
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:37 PM
 
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thats one of the things that draws me to paul.

as i said before i agree with him on a lot of things and im tired of the two party system.

even though paul is listed as a republican, hes a libertarian, he is not the GOP.

i like knowing that if obama wins i wouldn't have blood on my hands voting for him.

i also like knowing that if obama loses i wouldn't have helped the GOP lead us into a great depression.
Problem is if Paul does not get the GOP nomination neither he or the GOP stand a chance of winning and you probably will not even get a chance to vote for him.
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