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I'm not sure whether to think of his statement as ignorant or bizarre - or both.
If anyone here agrees with him, please explain why. I'm sure it will lead to an intellectually stimulating discussion. (Ha.)
Well, yes...you do choose to act on it. Just like you choose to act on anything you desire to do, including eating food, driving to work, etc. You have the inherent impulse and you choose to either do it or not.
The question is whether or not that is harmful to yourself or society. In the one (alcoholism), the answer is yes. In the other, the answer is no. That, I believe is where the debate will begin.
However, what he implies here is that you're born homosexual...that should satisfy a lot of people who are tired of the 'do you choose to BE gay?' debate. Obviously not. You only choose to have gay sex. Just like you don't choose to be a heterosexual. You only choose to have sex with the opposite gender.
Now you're gonna make me hijack the thread, thanks. lol I never understood why someone who hasn't had a drop of alcohol in over twenty years still refers to themselves as an "alcoholic" yet you never hear someone who quit smoking years ago call themselves a "smoker" despite nicotine being the harder habit to kick.
I pretty much agree with you that continuing to call oneself an "alcoholic" after decades of sobriety is not necessarily a good thing because the word itself carries a stigma. I think that after 20 years one can reasonably say, "I was an alcoholic 20 years ago but haven't touched a drop since then."
Getting back to Perry--he is a politician and a conservative Christian, not a psychologist or a scientist. Had gay activists not forced the issue into the political arena, it would not now be a political issue. Just saying........
Getting back to Perry--he is a politician and a conservative Christian, not a psychologist or a scientist. Had gay activists not forced the issue into the political arena, it would not now be a political issue. Just saying........
Had they been afforded basic human treatment and rights, they wouldn't have had to take it to the political arena.
Darn all those mistreated people who take it to the political arena so they can stop being treated as second-class citizens!
Originally Posted by Wayland Woman How can you call gay unions "unnational unions" when there are plenty of examples in the animal kingdom of same sex sexual encounters? Who's pushing the so-called "gay agenda" in the world of dolphins, orangutans, and zebras?
So.... packs of gay wolves, or gay mallards mated for life? Or are you trying to say gay men are nothing better then animals, when it comes to pleasuring themselves?
No. I'm saying that a certain percentage of humans and members of the animal kingdom are wired to be homosexual rather than heterosexual. It's not a "choice" when it's a natural occurrence in nature. For mankind to continue to label homosexuality as "a sin" is archaic.
How can you call gay unions "unnational unions" when there are plenty of examples in the animal kingdom of same sex sexual encounters? Who's pushing the so-called "gay agenda" in the world of dolphins, orangutans, and zebras?
So.... packs of gay wolves, or gay mallards mated for life? Or are you trying to say gay men are nothing better then animals, when it comes to pleasuring themselves?
I think what they are trying to state is that same sex attraction is natural since it happens in the natural world without human intervention.
Same sex activities in animals is NOT geared only towards procreation. It is used for dominance, friendship, etc. Thats why animals still have sex with infertile species like Mules, since they dont link sexual activites with procreation only. Thats is not how the animal kingdom works, us included.
Had they been afforded basic human treatment and rights, they wouldn't have had to take it to the political arena.
Darn all those mistreated people who take it to the political arena so they can stop being treated as second-class citizens!
"Basic human treatment and rights" lolololololololo
Gays are treated better in this country than almost any "group." They are put on a pedestal and given special treatment such as "protected class." They profess to want to be treated equally, but if you ever criticize a gay person, just as you might criticize anyone else, you're immediately labeled a bigot. Gays are glorified on television, movies and the media. It is hip and trendy to be gay in this country, and the gay community is untouchable.
"Basic human treatment and rights" lolololololololo
Gays are treated better in this country than almost any "group." They are put on a pedestal and given special treatment such as "protected class." They profess to want to be treated equally, but if you ever criticize a gay person, just as you might criticize anyone else, you're immediately labeled a bigot. Gays are glorified on television, movies and the media. It is hip and trendy to be gay in this country, and the gay community is untouchable.
What a load of crap. Special treatment...what "special treatment"...?
"Basic human treatment and rights" lolololololololo
Gays are treated better in this country than almost any "group." They are put on a pedestal and given special treatment such as "protected class." They profess to want to be treated equally, but if you ever criticize a gay person, just as you might criticize anyone else, you're immediately labeled a bigot. Gays are glorified on television, movies and the media. It is hip and trendy to be gay in this country, and the gay community is untouchable.
Gay community being untouchable huh?
How about all those hate crimes. Or about some of those obvious hate crimes not labeled as such in court. Tell that statement to the parents of Mr. Broussard, Mr. Shepherd, etc. I think that statement is kind of out of place. I do agree with you on the criticizing a gay person and be labeld a bigot, just as I do not like people being called racist when only "criticizing" ethnic minorities. But only criticizing ok, beyond that I am definitely not ok with it. There is a difference.
What a load of crap. Special treatment...what "special treatment"...?
Have you never heard of the term "hate crimes?" or "protected status?" Why should any group get preferential treatment over another group? Gays are glorified and untouchable in this country. It is great to be gay.
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