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View Poll Results: Do you believe that same-sex attractions are similar to alcoholism?
Yes 8 8.70%
No 79 85.87%
Not sure 5 5.43%
Voters: 92. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-26-2011, 02:34 AM
 
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hmmm.. I guess I'm just addicted to D*@&.... I'm guilty.. I need a twelve step program
maybe they'll come up with a slogan or something.. "Just say no....to D###"

U know they say though.. the only difference between a straight guy and a gay guy is 4 beers... maybe rick perry has found this out back in his college days.. u know those curious years in our lives? hmmm

Uhhhh......no.
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Old 08-26-2011, 05:24 AM
 
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People like Perry are saying in essence that they themselves have the capacity to have sex with some one from the same sex. He may be some one who has adapted his sexuality to fit a social norm. He seems like some one who over compensates.
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Old 08-26-2011, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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From the book, On My Honor by Rick Perry, 2008:



Rick Perry Compared Homosexuality To Alcoholism, Condemned ‘Radical Gays’ For Promoting ‘Gay Lifestyle’ | ThinkProgress

I'm not sure whether to think of his statement as ignorant or bizarre - or both.

If anyone here agrees with him, please explain why. I'm sure it will lead to an intellectually stimulating discussion. (Ha.)
How about "bizarrely ignorant"?
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Old 08-26-2011, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Never been addicted to alcohol so I wouldn't know.
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Old 08-26-2011, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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"thinking that someone should "control" these inherent sexual attractions is torture and abuse of the highest order."


So I DON"T have to control my inherent sexual attractions?

If I had only known this when I was in high school, I could have nailed Meme Murphy in the hallway between classes and boinked Sue LaLonde in social studies.

Get real!

We all control our sexual attractions.

If we didn't, nothing would ever get done and we would all live in a giant ghetto full of unwed mothers on welfare with kids who never met their father. If I wanted that, I would move to Detroit.



"If there are two consenting adults that share the same attractions towards one another how they express it is their own business and perfectly healthy and normal in human sexuality."


From the book, it seems Gov. Perry agrees with your basic premise, but he stops short of normalizing unnatural sex. I agree.
What "unnatural sex" are you talking about? The whole point is there is NOTHING "unnatural" about two homosexual men or two lesbians enjoying sex together.
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Old 08-26-2011, 06:35 AM
 
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I think Rick Perry is probably in the closet himself. No one has that much fascination for gays.
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Old 08-26-2011, 06:36 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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From the book, On My Honor by Rick Perry, 2008:



Rick Perry Compared Homosexuality To Alcoholism, Condemned ‘Radical Gays’ For Promoting ‘Gay Lifestyle’ | ThinkProgress

I'm not sure whether to think of his statement as ignorant or bizarre - or both.

If anyone here agrees with him, please explain why. I'm sure it will lead to an intellectually stimulating discussion. (Ha.)
Oh, great, another 'bash Rick Perry' and 'pro-homosexual' thread! Marvelous.

The only way to get in to read was to vote. I picked the first response just for drill. I don't know if "gayness" is an addiction, but it is a choice. No one is born "gay". Sorry "UnidentifiedMale".

And look at the source. "Think Progress"!!! Laughing my arse off!
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Old 08-26-2011, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Originally Posted by momonkey View Post
"thinking that someone should "control" these inherent sexual attractions is torture and abuse of the highest order."


So I DON"T have to control my inherent sexual attractions?

If I had only known this when I was in high school, I could have nailed Meme Murphy in the hallway between classes and boinked Sue LaLonde in social studies.

Get real!

We all control our sexual attractions.

If we didn't, nothing would ever get done and we would all live in a giant ghetto full of unwed mothers on welfare with kids who never met their father. If I wanted that, I would move to Detroit.



"If there are two consenting adults that share the same attractions towards one another how they express it is their own business and perfectly healthy and normal in human sexuality."


From the book, it seems Gov. Perry agrees with your basic premise, but he stops short of normalizing unnatural sex. I agree.


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same sex attraction is inherent.. not an affliction..
but sex in general can be an addiction whether it's gay or straight..
what you find sexy is your sexuality.. you can be a gay man and marry a woman and pop out a dozen kids.. it doesn't make you straight or take away the hard on you get every time a hot dude walks by..
thinking that someone should "control" these inherent sexual attractions is torture and abuse of the highest order. If there are two consenting adults that share the same attractions towards one another how they express it is their own business and perfectly healthy and normal in human sexuality. What is UN-natural is imposing of strict guidelines of sexual activity on the masses. who gets to do that? and to those people i would have to ask.. who do you think you are? worry about your own sex life or lackthereof... and quit concerning yourself with what others do, how they feel, and their own individual destiny in this life.. the universe governs the collective..we are all pieces that fit together to make a puzzle that is humanity.


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Another person that doesn't understand the difference between attractions and actions.
If I went ahead with my attractions I would have been a Dad way too young, never the less I was attracted to some of the girls I was around.



I'm sure you would agree that getting a hard on is certainly an action, even if it is involuntary. Boiseguy uses the term "inherent sexual attractions" in an equivalent way to "get a hard on" when he later refers to "these inherent sexual attractions". I know he used the term improperly, but since I understood from the context what he meant, I simply decided to not be the huge d**k who worries about everyone else's use of the language.
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Old 08-26-2011, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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controling our sexual attractions in the form of NEVER to be expressed EVER!
you are confusing sexual attractions in instances over what you inherently feel.. I would hope you've eventually had sex with someone you were sexually attracted to..and it was pleasurable and meaningful? why does someone else get to dictate this ability to someone else because they feel that towards someone of the same sex????


wooooosh... that's the sound of the point going over your head and bringing it back to YOU and YOUR sexuality when this topic isn't about YOU it's about people who have same sex attractions and how and when they go about engaging in sexual conduct.. two people banging in social studies class gay or straight is unrelated to two people who are attracted to one another biologically and sharing a private intimate moment..

Getting back to the subject of the thread, based on Gov. Perry's writings on the subject that he care what you or anyone else does for fun. I agree. It's none of my business, except when those who would promote the gay agenda seek to force the rest of us to grant unnatural unions the same acceptance as the natural.
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Old 08-26-2011, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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I'm not an alcoholic so maybe a sober alcoholic can chime in and answer a question for me.

Once sober for a few years and happily living a sober life, does the compelling urge to consume alcohol go away? I am a former smoker but quit in 1969 and after about 2-3 months I never again experienced any urge to light up. Is it the same for a sober alcoholic?

Having asked the question, I'll go ahead and say that sexual urges are with us well into advancing years, whether one is having sex or not, and the sexual pathways in the brain are not the same as the addiction pathways. While technically correct that actions, whether sexual or otherwise, are choices we make, placing sexual attraction into the same pigeon hole as alcoholic addiction is simplistic and incorrect.
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