First modern incumbent to not get party nomination? (unemployment, vote, Congress)

[BigHouse9]

Could Barack Obama be the first modern incumbent to not receive his parties nomination?

It seems like his base is abandoning him and his numbers keep dropping, the economy is in the tank due to his awful fiscal policies and there is no quick fix unfortunately. If he didn't, who could the Democrats bring in? They are really in a weak state at this point so even if Obama did not have much support, he may be the Dem's strongest candidate.

[TempesT68]

First the economy is in the tank because of the horrific republican policies under Bush.
Second While I would like to see a strong democrat come in and unseat Obama it's not going to happen until 2016. If anything there may be a relative unknown that may run for the most part just to call Obama out on his BS and give him a strong wake up call to stop being a sell out to wall street, and buddy-buddy with the republicans that will never respect or work with him.
Now while the base is pissed, they really have nowhere to go. Some strong liberals and other disgruntled democrats likely will vote for Paul, though the rest will hold their noses and vote for Obama.

[Rick Roma]

Originally Posted by TempesT68

First the economy is in the tank because of the horrific republican policies under Bush.
Second While I would like to see a strong democrat come in and unseat Obama it's not going to happen until 2016. If anything there may be a relative unknown that may run for the most part just to call Obama out on his BS and give him a strong wake up call to stop being a sell out to wall street, and buddy-buddy with the republicans that will never respect or work with him.
Now while the base is pissed, they really have nowhere to go. Some strong liberals and other disgruntled democrats likely will vote for Paul, though the rest will hold their noses and vote for Obama.

Interesting: Please cite these Bush policies that you speak of. When were they encated? Who controlled Congress at those times?

You won't see a Dem primary challenger because they're not willing to be called a racist for running against Barry.

[hawkeye2009]

Originally Posted by TempesT68

First the economy is in the tank because of the horrific republican policies under Bush.
Second While I would like to see a strong democrat come in and unseat Obama it's not going to happen until 2016. If anything there may be a relative unknown that may run for the most part just to call Obama out on his BS and give him a strong wake up call to stop being a sell out to wall street, and buddy-buddy with the republicans that will never respect or work with him.
Now while the base is pissed, they really have nowhere to go. Some strong liberals and other disgruntled democrats likely will vote for Paul, though the rest will hold their noses and vote for Obama.

1. The economy with Bush was great until the democratic congress took control.

2. Unemployment and the debt has increased dramatically since Bush left office.

3. The housing bubble was precipitated by liberal policy through the "fair housing" initiatives of liberals.

4. Big government, increased regulation, increased taxes, and reduced energy exploration is not the path to prosperity. This is pretty obvious.

[TempesT68]

Originally Posted by Rick Roma

Interesting: Please cite these Bush policies that you speak of. When were they encated? Who controlled Congress at those times?

Tax cuts for the rich, republican control of house/senate

False war in iraq, republican control of house/senate

Blank checks with outrageous spending to fund the wars, republican control of house/senate

Medicare part D, republican control of house/senate

Anti constitution/liberty Patriot act, republican control of house/senate

Anti constitution/liberty/massive spending creating the department of homeland security, republican control of house/senate,..

I could go on and on but the republicans and Bush were a well oiled machine pumping out bill after bill of massive spending, huge government, and anti freedom/liberty/constitution. The american people were sick of it as to why the GOP got stomped by the dems in 06' taking back the house and senate, stopping the nightmare the republicans were sending the country into.

Originally Posted by Rick Roma

You won't see a Dem primary challenger because they're not willing to be called a racist for running against Barry.

Really?

[Rick Roma]

Originally Posted by TempesT68

Tax cuts for the rich, republican control of house/senate

False war in iraq, republican control of house/senate

Blank checks with outrageous spending to fund the wars, republican control of house/senate

Medicare part D, republican control of house/senate

Anti constitution/liberty Patriot act, republican control of house/senate

Anti constitution/liberty/massive spending creating the department of homeland security, republican control of house/senate,..

I could go on and on but the republicans and Bush were a well oiled machine pumping out bill after bill of massive spending, huge government, and anti freedom/liberty/constitution. The american people were sick of it as to why the GOP got stomped by the dems in 06' taking back the house and senate, stopping the nightmare the republicans were sending the country into.



Really?

That's an interesting take but none of those caused the current recession. I'd love to hear an explanation on how you figure they did. Can you explain how the Patriot Act damaged the economy or is this another baseless moonbat Bush bashing rant?

[TempesT68]

Originally Posted by Rick Roma

That's an interesting take but none of those caused the current recession. I'd love to hear an explanation on how you figure they did.

Spend some time doing your research. If you were well informed on all the issues I stated, you wouldn't be asking this question

[BigHouse9]

Hey, I agree it was the Democratic regulation of the housing market that created this huge bubble amongst all of the other government controlled ponzi-schemes and then slap a big dose of Keynsian economic policies and watch the economy implode.

So TempesT, I am assuming by your railing against large government spending, you will be voting for the candidate that espouses smaller government and decreased spending such as a good Conservative candidate?

But does anyone think Obama may not get the nomination? I think there may be a chance given how weak he has been.

[Rick Roma]

Originally Posted by TempesT68

Spend some time doing your research. If you were well informed on all the issues I stated, you wouldn't be asking this question

What you really mean is that you can't answer my question. So this is yet another baseless moonbat Bush bashing rant. Thanks for the confirmation.

[TempesT68]

Originally Posted by BigHouse9

Hey, I agree it was the Democratic regulation of the housing market that created this huge bubble amongst all of the other government controlled ponzi-schemes

False. The democrats called for Bush to loosen the leash on loans for housing. Bush in turn, along with the republican controlled congress completely took it off letting the big banks run wild giving out predatory loans destroying countless peoples lives. The same thing happened with Bush and the republicans letting big oil do the dangerous deep sea drilling that led to the gulf oil spill disaster.

Originally Posted by BigHouse9

So TempesT, I am assuming by your railing against large government spending, you will be voting for the candidate that espouses smaller government and decreased spending

Absolutely.

Originally Posted by BigHouse9

such as a good Conservative candidate?

Now that's funny. That's like saying we should trust a crackhead as they are good with money and only have the best intentions in mind, never just themselves,..