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View Poll Results: Who won the debate in your honest opinion?...
Michelle Bachmann 6 9.23%
Herman Cain 3 4.62%
Newt Gingrich 3 4.62%
Jon Huntsman 4 6.15%
Ron Paul 25 38.46%
Rick Perry 4 6.15%
Mitt Romney 18 27.69%
Rick Santorum 2 3.08%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-13-2011, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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It doesn't take an economist to figure that out... any thinking adult should have seen this coming, considering we had a credit crunch in late 1980s and a recession in 1991-92. And when you allow lenders to go crazy while fully backing them up and allowing leveraging to over 30:1 (2004), what else was to be expected?
Now that is one thing I agree with you on: actually clear back in the 70s we should have known sooner or later the bubble would burst. By the early 21st century it was very obvious.

Nita
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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The Elite (Bildebergers, et al) are backing Perry, so he will get strong backing from the media and financialy. Paul has the popular support. If Paul doesn't get the nomination, he will stand down. A third party candidate will just give the election to Obama.
I see no 3rd party candidates in this debate - they are all running as Republicans.
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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It is also interesting that Perry is getting more hell over an undone EO than Romney is getting over his still supporting of Romneycare.
I think when we get a few candidates out of the race some will see things more clearly.

Nita
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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and the high cost of health care is partially due to stupid law suits. bring on Tort Reform. That is one thing that I do like about Perry.

Nita
He stole that from Ron Paul.
Tort Reform | Ron Paul .com
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:26 PM
 
Location: #
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It seemed that Rick Perry was very much the audience favorite until the Dream Act was mentioned. How can they support him so strongly, given the HPV flap, and the illegal immigrant issue? Was last night the first time most of them had heard about Texas' version of the dream act?
A true Republican would agree with Perry when it comes to immigration as deporting people breaks up families.

Republicans are the party of family values, correct?
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Now that is one thing I agree with you on: actually clear back in the 70s we should have known sooner or later the bubble would burst. By the early 21st century it was very obvious.

Nita
The 1970s was indeed a disaster for an economy, right off the bat, probably right up there with the 2000s. But credit bubble really started to take shape in the 1980s with "kind" policies to the effect. The move in 2004 to allow the mega financiers to leverage past 30:1 was simply a nail properly put in place.

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and the high cost of health care is partially due to stupid law suits. bring on Tort Reform. That is one thing that I do like about Perry.
Nita
Texas has tort reform (as do most states), and no benefit to show to the effect. Some states have chosen to stay out of it for their own reasoning. You would think a "state's right" candidate would be the last person to push for a national policy? Or does that idea apply only when convenient, and to push for personal agenda?
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Based on my post, what do you think? From the looks of it as well as the history, I would say that I certainly don't belong in the collective where you do.
So what you are saying is: only Paul supporters or people who agree with you are anything but idiots? Is is nice to know you think so much of yourself.

Nita
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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He stole that from Ron Paul.
Tort Reform | Ron Paul .com
are you saying he signed the tort reform bill in Texas because of Paul?

Nita
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Tort Reform.....Hah! Another Republican smoke and mirrors, fear issue.
Medical malpractice lawsuits and doctor premiums account for less than 1% of health care costs. So we take away a consumer's right of redress for faulty procedures to save less than a penny on a dollar? I think not.......
Americans for Insurance Reform
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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So what you are saying is: only Paul supporters or people who agree with you are anything but idiots? Is is nice to know you think so much of yourself.

Nita
No, idiots are a whole class on their own. I don't agree with Ron Paul on most matters, but he has earned my respect.
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