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Old 09-14-2011, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Koch has endorsed other Republicans before that is nothing new. Keep in mind this is a district Obama won by 4 points more than his national margin, so I don't think losing a district 4 points more Dem than the nation on the Presidential level is reason for paic.
If you're a Democrat and you don't think that losing a congressional seat in Brooklyn/Queens to a Republican is reason to panic, then I have a bridge to sell you.
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I think you all are making too much of this. I tend to think this is a good article. It points out correctly that this is a rather unique district with issues that are not likely to be of great importance nationwide.

Election Forecasts - FiveThirtyEight Blog - NYTimes.com
Making too much out of this? You mean a heavily Jewish, Democratic district in New York City voting against the Jewish Democratic candidate and for the conservative Republican candidate is not that big of a deal?
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:45 PM
 
Location: In Transition
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If you're a Democrat and you don't think that losing a congressional seat in Brooklyn/Queens to a Republican is reason to panic, then I have a bridge to sell you.
Actually, let them sit there in their echo chamber, where they only talk to each other, and let them continue to think this is not an issue. Then when the elections in Nov 2012 come, they will be even more spinning when they lose.

Deep down, they probably know this is a big problem, they just don't want let others catch on.
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:18 PM
 
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Wow. Just wow.

Back in the whole "weinergate" thread I made the comment that Democrats weren't going to rally around him because they *knew* they'd just replace him with another Dem and not lose the seat.

Or at least that is what we all thought.

This is INDEED bad news for Obama\Dems in that it shows that his Israel policies and war continuation may very well cost him a lot of moderate democrat votes as well as independents. Granted, it remains to be seen whom the republicans would be running in opposition and the tides can always turn quickly.

Please note, I'm not taking a dem or rep side in this....I'm just shocked that weiners seat went republican and this paints a potentially scary picture for the dems IMO.
Not really, the seat is up for election next year anyhow. This vote was clearly trying to send a message to Obama to stop being a sell out to the republicans, wall street, and to stand up for what's right.
Obama has incredibly let down the base and they have been making it clear as of late. Though there is no way in hell the democrat supporters would switch their support over to a GOP candidate.
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:54 PM
 
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Not really, the seat is up for election next year anyhow. This vote was clearly trying to send a message to Obama to stop being a sell out to the republicans, wall street, and to stand up for what's right.
Obama has incredibly let down the base and they have been making it clear as of late. Though there is no way in hell the democrat supporters would switch their support over to a GOP candidate.
by any chance do you live anywhere near this district many democratic prescients had very high turnout
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:57 PM
 
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Deep down, they probably know this is a big problem, they just don't want let others catch on.
more then one actually.
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:29 PM
 
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Heard Around Town, Sept. 14, 2011 (http://www.cityhallnews.com/2011/09/heard-around-town-sept-14-2011/ - broken link)
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Old 09-14-2011, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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If you're a Democrat and you don't think that losing a congressional seat in Brooklyn/Queens to a Republican is reason to panic, then I have a bridge to sell you.
NY-9 4 points more Democratic on the Presidential level than the nation, won by the GOP in a Special Election.

NY-26 13 points more Republican on the Presidential level than the nation, won by the Democrats in a Special Election
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Old 09-14-2011, 06:56 PM
 
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Poll: Same-Sex Marriage Played Role in NY City Congressional Upset | CNSnews.com
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Old 09-15-2011, 01:31 AM
 
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Behind Turner’s Win: Jewish Voters Opposed to Gay Marriage - Metropolis - WSJ
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