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Old 04-18-2012, 12:55 AM
 
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That's an eyeopener! Never thought of the gov't "owning" stock, but this is how they fund their pensions. Did I get that right? So does the gov't own the corporations, or do the corporations own our gov't?
Oh yes they own lots of stock. Well different people will probably say one or the other. I consider it a joint venture. Ultimately, it is always people implementing, whether you see them or not. Many of the same players are involved historically. (Look at govt and banks) The govt is used as the giant machine to transfer. If you look at investments funds. You will see govts as controlling shares. This is actually global.

So then throw this in the mix. You can start to see what is happening.
Capitalist network running the world.
Revealed

Here this is handy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compre...nancial_report

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Old 04-18-2012, 02:28 AM
 
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Here this is handy for other information related to financials.
Ever Wonder - Key Financial Reports of Federal Government and "other" IRS
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:55 AM
 
Location: SC
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Oh yes they own lots of stock. Well different people will probably say one or the other. I consider it a joint venture. Ultimately, it is always people implementing, whether you see them or not. Many of the same players are involved historically. (Look at govt and banks) The govt is used as the giant machine to transfer. If you look at investments funds. You will see govts as controlling shares. This is actually global.

So then throw this in the mix. You can start to see what is happening.
Capitalist network running the world.
Revealed

Here this is handy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compre...nancial_report
Add to that that insider trading is perfectly acceptable for members of Congress. They arrive in Congress after being elected for the first time an ordinary middle class person and in a year or two , their net worth has increased exponentially. Where else does this happen? It doesn't for regular citizens in the private sector.
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:47 PM
 
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Add to that that insider trading is perfectly acceptable for members of Congress. They arrive in Congress after being elected for the first time an ordinary middle class person and in a year or two , their net worth has increased exponentially. Where else does this happen? It doesn't for regular citizens in the private sector.
Yes, "foxes running the hen house". Then you have to factor in the revolving doors, lobbying, and those getting private contracts with the government. We have an ungodly amt of contractors just dealing with military and terrorism alone.
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:52 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Add to that that insider trading is perfectly acceptable for members of Congress. They arrive in Congress after being elected for the first time an ordinary middle class person and in a year or two , their net worth has increased exponentially. Where else does this happen? It doesn't for regular citizens in the private sector.
Ron Paul, besides being someone who has support racist positions and other anti-American value behaviors, is a Washington insider unlike any other Presidential candidate this year. That and his mental state are reasons enough for the rejection he's faced thus far this year.
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Oh yes they own lots of stock. Well different people will probably say one or the other. I consider it a joint venture. Ultimately, it is always people implementing, whether you see them or not. Many of the same players are involved historically. (Look at govt and banks) The govt is used as the giant machine to transfer. If you look at investments funds. You will see govts as controlling shares. This is actually global.

So then throw this in the mix. You can start to see what is happening.
Capitalist network running the world.
Revealed

Here this is handy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compre...nancial_report
Gives "insider' trading a whole new meaning. I think these guys are "very connected".
10 billion dollar deal!
UPDATE 1-Nestle near buying Pfizer's baby formula - sources | Reuters

no, looks like Pfizer is a superconnected.
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:03 PM
 
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Gives "insider' trading a whole new meaning. I think these guys are "very connected".
10 billion dollar deal!
UPDATE 1-Nestle near buying Pfizer's baby formula - sources | Reuters

no, looks like Pfizer is a superconnected.
I would say Pfizer is doing alright. (#21 by profit)
Fortune 500 2011: Top Performers - Most Profitable Companies: Profits
#15 by biggest
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...anies/biggest/

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Old 04-18-2012, 08:07 PM
 
Location: southern california
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later when we are all selling apples on a street corner, we will look back and realize that we should have elected ron paul.
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Old 04-19-2012, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Gone
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later when we are all selling apples on a street corner, we will look back and realize that we should have elected ron paul.
Is that the career filed of choice for Ron Paul supporters?

Thing is that is where you could very well end up if you Did elect Paul, since there would be no government assistance under him if you lost your job and could not find another one quickly
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Is that the career filed of choice for Ron Paul supporters?

Thing is that is where you could very well end up if you Did elect Paul, since there would be no government assistance under him if you lost your job and could not find another one quickly
Under Obama, we would be in violation of some regulation to even sell our own apples. God only knows how much he'd get to spend inspecting and surveilling for violators.
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