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Old 08-29-2012, 10:41 AM
 
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And you're voting for someone (who by the way isn't even a candidate anymore) who has absolutely no chance of winning.

Use common sense. Romney has an infinitely better chance of winning the election than Ron Paul. Romney is more conservative than Obama (If you don't believe that then you're insane and you probably shouldn't be voting anyways). Therefore, the most viable conservative candidate that actually has a shot at winning is Romney.

If you vote for Paul, then you are essentially voting for Obamacare, more spending and more regulation.

You will be perceived not as a group that incited the libertarian revolution, but rather one that handed Obama another four years in office.

That's reality...
The GOP just commited suicide. The elite knew Obama could not beat Ron Paul so they pushed Romney. Either way they get what they want. The GOP don't care about voting Republicans. They only care about keeping the status quo, both Romney and Obama are puppets. They are in a win win situation and the people as usual lose. They don't give a damn about committing suicide they know no one is going to stop them.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:51 AM
 
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The GOP just commited suicide. The elite knew Obama could not beat Ron Paul so they pushed Romney. Either way they get what they want. The GOP don't care about voting Republicans. They only care about keeping the status quo, both Romney and Obama are puppets. They are in a win win situation and the people as usual lose. They don't give a damn about committing suicide they know no one is going to stop them.
Thanks for helping Obama get reelected. I think it's time for you to join Occupy. You certainly sound like one.

You are relying on a false perception and pretense that somehow the masses should have rallied around Paul for some arbitrary reason, but I suppose that is your own subjective reality. The objective reality is that Ron Paul lost in the primaries. Those who voted for Santorum and Ginrich are now rallying around Romney. So, why do Paul supporter continue to resist a united front? Blind stubbornness?
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Old 08-29-2012, 11:14 AM
 
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And you're voting for someone (who by the way isn't even a candidate anymore) who has absolutely no chance of winning.

Use common sense. Romney has an infinitely better chance of winning the election than Ron Paul. Romney is more conservative than Obama (If you don't believe that then you're insane and you probably shouldn't be voting anyways). Therefore, the most viable conservative candidate that actually has a shot at winning is Romney.

If you vote for Paul, then you are essentially voting for Obamacare, more spending and more regulation.

You will be perceived not as a group that incited the libertarian revolution, but rather one that handed Obama another four years in office.

That's reality...

Even worse, by dismissing the Republican party you are consequently turning off most conservatives to the Libertarian message. The Republican party can get on without Libertarians. The question is can Libertarianism survive without the support of the Republicans?
This is true. We need breathing room in this country. Obama must go, under any circumstance. It's time to rally around Romney, whether you you like it or not
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:26 PM
 
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This is true. We need breathing room in this country. Obama must go, under any circumstance. It's time to rally around Romney, whether you you like it or not
Romney has zero shot against Obama. The last chance for the GOP was Ron Paul.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:14 PM
 
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This is true. We need breathing room in this country. Obama must go, under any circumstance. It's time to rally around Romney, whether you you like it or not
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Thanks for helping Obama get reelected. I think it's time for you to join Occupy. You certainly sound like one.

You are relying on a false perception and pretense that somehow the masses should have rallied around Paul for some arbitrary reason, but I suppose that is your own subjective reality. The objective reality is that Ron Paul lost in the primaries. Those who voted for Santorum and Ginrich are now rallying around Romney. So, why do Paul supporter continue to resist a united front? Blind stubbornness?
United front? where?
You people are falling for the marketing, just like they marketed Obama. Neither of these candidates give a damn about you. Romney is being rammed down our throats, but we aren't swallowing. There was a time I wanted to believe in Mitt, just as you do, but the Republican games during this primary have opened my eyes. Republicans are playing just as dirty as the democrats. Rand Paul's angle is to fix the party, but I don't think that's realistic. Ron Paul has been doing that for 35 years, perhaps now the time has come, I'd like to embrace hope too, but we also must look at the odds. They aren't good. Real change was Ron Paul, and they gagged him and kicked him to the side. That's unforgiveable.
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Old 08-29-2012, 04:31 PM
 
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Thanks for helping Obama get reelected. I think it's time for you to join Occupy. You certainly sound like one.

You are relying on a false perception and pretense that somehow the masses should have rallied around Paul for some arbitrary reason, but I suppose that is your own subjective reality. The objective reality is that Ron Paul lost in the primaries. Those who voted for Santorum and Ginrich are now rallying around Romney. So, why do Paul supporter continue to resist a united front? Blind stubbornness?
Clearly, you have missed much. The system is owned top to bottom. That is why fraud is rampant. The only "masses" that matter are the vote counters. Rally around Mitt all you want. The man has no integrity. It isn't up to the voters who wins. If you think it does you are the one relying on a "false" perception.
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:41 PM
 
Location: SC
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The GOP just commited suicide. The elite knew Obama could not beat Ron Paul so they pushed Romney. Either way they get what they want. The GOP don't care about voting Republicans. They only care about keeping the status quo, both Romney and Obama are puppets. They are in a win win situation and the people as usual lose. They don't give a damn about committing suicide they know no one is going to stop them.
That is about the size of it isn't it? The way they went about it with all the cheating was unbelievable. Some reporters are saying that Ron Paul won anyway because he didn't engage in SLEAZE the way Romney had to and now the truth is out about how he did, even through all the rule changes, get six states petitions in so he SHOULD have been on the ballot and had 15 mins of speaking time. except that at the last minute they decided to change the rule to requiring even more states.

Our only hope is that people come to their senses and stop voting for the lesser of two evils and vote their conscience for a change. For this election they have nothing to lose. As far as fixing any of the country's problems , like you said, Obama and Romney are puppets. People may as well vote for Ron Paul. They have nothing to lose. The country will go down the crapper just as fast with Obama or Romney at the helm.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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as written in the NY Times:
In all fields of human endeavor, winning by cheating is losing.
In a competition, when someone cheats, he gets disqualified. The disqualification does not make the runner-up the winner. Rather, it reveals that the man who appeared to be the runner-up had in fact been the winner all along.
In the race for the GOP nomination for president, therefore, Ron Paul won.
Robin Koerner: Ron Paul Won
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:14 PM
 
Location: SC
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Well this is encouraging. I guess there was more boisterousness at the convention and there is probably more to come. Look at this.

Maine Delegates were outraged!

RNC Sham 2012 - YouTube

...Look at how they shoved the rules change at the last minute down people's throats.


The Republicans' 2012 Teleprompted Convention Part 2 - YouTube



Look at a new billboard Ocala, FL now sports. (I guess they have some Liberty lovers there after all.)


» Billboards Warning of Martial Law Go Up in Florida Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!






Yes there is HOPE. There still may be a fight at the RNC. The delegates aren't going to accept the "compromise" after all. "Malpractice" is admitted here.



Conservatives charge Team Romney with

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