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Old 09-14-2011, 12:26 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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Actually, Ron Paul has never received more than 0.5% of the popular vote. Libertarians are nothing more than closet anarchists, and anarchists do not vote.
We are? Why do we want laws against force, fraud and coercion, a bill of rights and a constitution if we want anarchy?

I have voted in every election since I was 18.
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Old 09-14-2011, 06:18 PM
 
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He just ACED the CNN interview! He gave the PERFECT answer to refuting the stupid thinking that terrorist hate us because of our freedom by pointing out two things: 1) There are PLENTY of other countries that are FREER than we are. If they hate us because we are "so free", why aren't they going after these other countries like Switzerland? 2) He again reminded the interviewer that in letters from the terrorists themselves, they have stated over and over that what they hate the most is our being over there; the occupation; our bases. DUH!

Now maybe we can GET IT THROUGH some of our THICK STUBBORN DISBELIEVING heads, that it might NOT be such a good idea AFTER ALL to be the war monger of the world. Our behavior as such might even be, as Ron Paul has said OVER and OVER, making us LESS SAFE.
But emily, Ron Paul wants to make 'US' less safe.

This is just one of his scary proposals. To de-Tooth our Military!

An old, wise Indian saying - ''It is Wise to be STRONG; This keeps your enemies PEACEFUL!''
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Old 09-14-2011, 06:58 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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But emily, Ron Paul wants to make 'US' less safe.

This is just one of his scary proposals. To de-Tooth our Military!

An old, wise Indian saying - ''It is Wise to be STRONG; This keeps your enemies PEACEFUL!''
So bringing all our troops home and focusing all of our defense on actually defending our nation will make us less safe?
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Old 09-14-2011, 07:59 PM
 
Location: SC
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But emily, Ron Paul wants to make 'US' less safe.

This is just one of his scary proposals. To de-Tooth our Military!

An old, wise Indian saying - ''It is Wise to be STRONG; This keeps your enemies PEACEFUL!''
No Q.G. Our Military now has all of its teeth extracted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just look at the LAME in fact ZERO with a Capital "Z" response there was after 9/11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How do you explain that? Was that a GOOD thing??? There was ZERO MILITARY RESPONSE!

Tell me this: What in the word makes people in this country feel one iota safer after watching on TV, what we saw on 9/ll for hours with NO MILITARY counter response? The only possible explanation if you think we do in fact have a supreme military was that there was a "stand down" order.

People need to WAKE UP and realize that their tax dollars are being spend to protect and enrich other countries by our military when FIRST AND FOREMOST, THEY SHOULD BE HERE PROTECTING US!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What in the H--- were they doing on 9/11? it was as if they called a holiday and the entire military was OFF DUTY. If that is their idea of DEFENDING US ON OUR SOIL then we are up a creek without a paddle!
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Old 09-14-2011, 08:03 PM
 
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Actually, Ron Paul has never received more than 0.5% of the popular vote. Libertarians are nothing more than closet anarchists, and anarchists do not vote.

Why would someone who doesn't believe in government run for a government position? Doesn't that present a conundrum of sorts...lol?
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Old 09-14-2011, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Not to put a damper on the Great Paul Surge...but surging 14 months before the election is not often a good thing.
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Old 09-14-2011, 08:15 PM
 
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No Q.G. Our Military now has all of its teeth extracted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just look at the LAME in fact ZERO with a Capital "Z" response there was after 9/11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How do you explain that? Was that a GOOD thing??? There was ZERO MILITARY RESPONSE!

Tell me this: What in the word makes people in this country feel one iota safer after watching on TV, what we saw on 9/ll for hours with NO MILITARY counter response? The only possible explanation if you think we do in fact have a supreme military was that there was a "stand down" order.

People need to WAKE UP and realize that their tax dollars are being spend to protect and enrich other countries by our military when FIRST AND FOREMOST, THEY SHOULD BE HERE PROTECTING US!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What in the H--- were they doing on 9/11? it was as if they called a holiday and the entire military was OFF DUTY. If that is their idea of DEFENDING US ON OUR SOIL then we are up a creek without a paddle!
That was ignorant, DUMB liar, dubya Bush...and his neo con (men and woman, Condi) fulfilling their ''New World Order'' Agenda. Bush was worse than the current 'guy'....in many, many ways!
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Old 09-14-2011, 08:20 PM
 
Location: SC
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So bringing all our troops home and focusing all of our defense on actually defending our nation will make us less safe?
Right hilgi. It never ceases to amaze me how "confused" people get about what constitutes safety. You'd think everyone would agree that first and foremost, you'd need a strong military on your own soil.

Somehow Americans have become confused, maybe starting with the "pre-emptive" attacks on Iraq by GW Bush. They've become brainwashed to think that it is better to have our troops scattered all over the world than to have them here protecting us. They don't bat an eyelash now when Obama sends drones into Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, Syria WITHOUT consulting Congress. It makes you wonder if they have lost all their common sense.
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Old 09-14-2011, 08:22 PM
 
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Of course Ron Paul is an isolationist. The reason you are not aware of this fact is because you do not know Ron Paul's voting record. For the last 30 years Ron Paul has voted against every free trade agreement ever introduced, without exception. Coupled with the fact that Ron Paul wants the US military pulled out of all foreign nations and located solely in the US by definition makes Ron Paul an isolationist.

Ron Paul is another Kim Jong-Il wannabe.
it seems that "free trade" agreements really are manipulated trade agreements.

ron paul on CAFTA:

The tax bill in question is just the tip of the iceberg. The quasi-judicial regime created under CAFTA will have the same power to coerce our cowardly legislature into changing American laws in the future. Labor and environmental rules are inherently associated with trade laws, and we can be sure that CAFTA will provide yet another avenue for globalists to impose the Kyoto Accord and similar agreements on the American people. CAFTA also imposes the International Labor Organization's manifesto, which could have been written by Karl Marx, on American business. I encourage every conservative and libertarian who supports CAFTA to read the ILO declaration and consider whether they still believe the treaty will make America more free.

CAFTA means more government! Like the UN, NAFTA, and the WTO, it represents another stone in the foundation of a global government system. Most Americans already understand they are governed by largely unaccountable forces in Washington, yet now they face having their domestic laws influenced by bureaucrats in Brussels, Zurich, or Mexico City.

CAFTA and other international trade agreements do not represent free trade. Free trade occurs in the absence of government interference in the flow of goods, while CAFTA represents more government in the form of an international body. It is incompatible with our Constitution and national sovereignty, and we don't need it to benefit from international trade.


i couldn't agree more, and i am pleased as punch that he votes against those deals, and against the UN, NAFTA, and the WTO.

this actually ties in a little with my solyndra comments on cap and trade. (think of the kyoto protoco, al gore, goldman sachs, and the chicago climate exchangel).

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Old 09-14-2011, 08:24 PM
 
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So bringing all our troops home and focusing all of our defense on actually defending our nation will make us less safe?
i am waiting for the answer on that one.

i guess guarding your OWN borders isn't necessary to be "safe".

i guess it is better to send your soldiers, equipment, and money someplace else.
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