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Old 11-23-2011, 08:03 PM
 
Location: MW
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oh for heaven's sake, The Christian Science Monitor is about as liberal as the Huffington Post, well that is an exageration, but it is a very liberal publication and would love to see someone like Paul get the nominiation.
Then don't read the article.
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Old 11-23-2011, 09:24 PM
 
Location: SC
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Hey, the more honest articles about Ron Paul there are from more diverse sources the better! It only means that Ron Paul has positions that more and more people across the spectrum can support.

Here's Alan Colmes (speaking of liberals) who agrees with Ron Paul about the Patriot Act.


Alan Colmes Defends Ron Paul & The Constitution From A Neocon On Fox - YouTube
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Old 11-23-2011, 09:43 PM
 
Location: SC
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And Donna Brazile says she agrees with Paul "a lot"


Donna Brazile Agrees With Ron Paul! "I Agree With Him On A LOT" - YouTube
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Old 11-24-2011, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Hey, the more honest articles about Ron Paul there are from more diverse sources the better! It only means that Ron Paul has positions that more and more people across the spectrum can support.

Here's Alan Colmes (speaking of liberals) who agrees with Ron Paul about the Patriot Act.


Alan Colmes Defends Ron Paul & The Constitution From A Neocon On Fox - YouTube
Alan Colmes has about as much credibility as the man in the moon.

Nita
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Old 11-24-2011, 12:56 PM
 
Location: SC
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Alan Colmes has about as much credibility as the man in the moon.

Nita
Obviously few people care about credibility these days. All you need to do is look at all the people who refer Ron Paul as an isolationist when they should be saying non-interventionist. The war-mongering supporting media sources calling him isolationist aren't credible at all. Rather viewership and exposure is what seems to count. Maybe that is because few people can discern between what is credible and what isn't.
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Old 11-24-2011, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Alan Colmes has about as much credibility as the man in the moon.

Nita
You frequently attack the source. Tell me, who IS credible in your eyes? Bill O'Reilly? Sean Hannity? Rush Limbaugh?
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Old 11-25-2011, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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This is a GREAT article:
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One of the most fascinating things, for me as a Brit, about engaging with American politics is that all political issues are filtered in the media through an extraordinarily crass Left vs. Right paradigm.
Left and right are not the two paradigms of American politics. They are the two flavors of only one.
America has been brought to its knees by a Left that has empowered the state and a Right that has subsidized big business. The nation has been disempowered by an axis between the apparatchiks of State that pass laws that concentrate wealth in the hands of the financial elite that funds them. Over the last century, the Left have tended to harp on about the corruption of corporate and financial interests, while the Right have tended to harp on about the corruption of State interests.
Meanwhile, corporate interests have made the State corrupt by financing it, and the State has made corporations corrupt through corporatist law-making. The net effect is that the State has concentrated power, and the corporations -- and in particular banks -- have concentrated wealth. The rest of us have paid for it in liberty and wealth, respectively.
The rise of the welfare state has depended on the rise of the crony capitalism -- and vice versa, and the mechanism is not hard to understand.
Banks create money and thereby inflation under license from the government. Wealth becomes concentrated in the hands of bankers as they charge interest on the money they create. This interest has eventually to be paid by the users of that money -- workers and the middle class -- out of the wealth they gain through their labor. In other words, over time, the products of human labor accumulate as assets to those that deal only in money and make nothing good. The government's interest in this system is that it allows them to create and borrow money to fund their schemes without having to tax the people their full cost. In other words, it helps them get votes and retain power.
This creation of money by bankers, including central bankers is inflation. The steady erosion of the value of money transfers wealth to those that create it, impoverishing those who do not hold significant assets. Those asset-poor people are the lower 90 percent of our nation. Over time, the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer, and those in the middle tend to join the latter group. The skilled American householder today earns less than he earned in 1973. And whereas it used to take one income to raise a family, it now takes two.
To keep the system running without riots in the street, the same government officials who license the banks to print money pass welfare laws, which keep the disenfranchised at the bottom, but off the streets.
Therefore, there is no welfarism, beloved of the old Left, without crony capitalism (which pays for it). And there is no crony capitalism, beloved of the old Right, without welfarism (which maintains the political stability that protects it).
None of this is Constitutional. And none of it is conducive to liberty or the honest pursuit of happiness.
Robin Koerner: "First Do No Harm": Constitutional and Conservative Liberals

It helps illustrate point that the Left/Right divide is usually a false dichotomy.
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Old 11-25-2011, 11:49 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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You frequently attack the source. Tell me, who IS credible in your eyes? Bill O'Reilly? Sean Hannity? Rush Limbaugh?
Good retort!

I agree!
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Old 11-26-2011, 01:03 AM
 
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And Donna Brazile says she agrees with Paul "a lot"


Donna Brazile Agrees With Ron Paul! "I Agree With Him On A LOT" - YouTube
When you go bonkers over a dubious candidate, you often wind up 'hanging your candidate.' That's what you've done with this post, emily!!

If Donna Brazile, a vile Democrat party promoter of BO, agrees with Ron Paul, it makes it precisely clear that Paul is NO conservative, in ANY sense of the word.

Noticed Ari Fleischer pointed out only 8 to 10% follow Mr. Paul regarding the issue. As usual, nothing of impact.

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Old 11-26-2011, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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When you go bonkas over a dubious candidate, you often wind up 'hanging your candidate.' That's what you've done with this post, emily!!

If Donna Brazile, a vile Democrat party promoter of BO, agrees with Ron Paul, it makes it precisely clear that Paul is NO conservative, in ANY sense of the word.

Noticed Ari Fleischer pointed out only 8 to 10% follow Mr. Paul regarding the issue. As usual, nothing of impact.
Limited gov't, free markets, and individual liberty are conservative principles. He is THE true Republican candidate, the others just don't follow what they preach. Neither Democrats nor Republicans abide by the Constitution, only Ron Paul does, and his voting record is proof.
Posters on this forum criticized Bachmann for taking advice from her husband, Perry is constantly gushing about his wife, and you know Calista will be influential with Newt - Ron Paul makes his own decisions, and we can trust his judgment to be sound. He has reasoned arguments for all his positions. There is no contest.
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