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Old 09-15-2011, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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How can Fox News use Frank Luntz to moderate its post debate focus groups? Wasn't he one of the group of elitist Republican "Inside The Beltway" boys along with Bill Kristol, Jonah Goldberg, Karl Rove and other fuddy duddy Republicans trying to persuade Paul Ryan (no executive experience, shared 13% approval rating) to run? That means Luntz wasn't happy with the GOP field (which is currently everyone in the race and on the debate stage). I was appalled at the way he conducted the focus group after the last debate, leading the participants to agree with his obvious bias.

Fox News should 86 him for all of the post GOP debate focus groups.

In fact, who believes Jonah Goldberg, Bill Kristol or Karl Rove now when they "analyze" the GOP field knowing they don't like anyone running/prefer one of their DC/NY elitist politician buddies as a candidate? Just remember that the Goldbergs, Roves, Kristols, Krauthammers of the media world have no direct power of their own in their jobs and derive their power from who they rub elbows with on a regular basis. That's why they want one of their DC/NY politicians (who they also believe can win) to head the ticket. It's in their own best interest.

Fox News, you have become the mainstream media, no different than the other elitist media types who suck up to Obama.
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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How can Fox News use Frank Luntz to moderate its post debate focus groups? Wasn't he one of the group of elitist Republican "Inside The Beltway" boys along with Bill Kristol, Jonah Goldberg, Karl Rove and other fuddy duddy Republicans trying to persuade Paul Ryan (no executive experience, shared 13% approval rating) to run? That means Luntz wasn't happy with the GOP field (which is currently everyone in the race and on the debate stage). I was appalled at the way he conducted the focus group after the last debate, leading the participants to agree with his obvious bias.

Fox News should 86 him for all of the post GOP debate focus groups.

In fact, who believes Jonah Goldberg, Bill Kristol or Karl Rove now when they "analyze" the GOP field knowing they don't like anyone running/prefer one of their DC/NY elitist politician buddies as a candidate? Just remember that the Goldbergs, Roves, Kristols, Krauthammers of the media world have no direct power of their own in their jobs and derive their power from who they rub elbows with on a regular basis. That's why they want one of their DC/NY politicians (who they also believe can win) to head the ticket. It's in their own best interest.

Fox News, you have become the mainstream media, no different than the other elitist media types who suck up to Obama.
I can buy Goldberg to a degree and Kristol is amuzing if nothing else, but Rove, what a joke. yes, they are inside the beltway boys for sure.

Nita

ps: welcome back, hope you had a good time.

Nita
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:32 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The Neocon push.

World dominance, no matter what arm band you're wearing.
One World Order, justifies the means.
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:46 AM
 
Location: PA
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How can Fox News use Frank Luntz to moderate its post debate focus groups? Wasn't he one of the group of elitist Republican "Inside The Beltway" boys along with Bill Kristol, Jonah Goldberg, Karl Rove and other fuddy duddy Republicans trying to persuade Paul Ryan (no executive experience, shared 13% approval rating) to run? That means Luntz wasn't happy with the GOP field (which is currently everyone in the race and on the debate stage). I was appalled at the way he conducted the focus group after the last debate, leading the participants to agree with his obvious bias.

Fox News should 86 him for all of the post GOP debate focus groups.

In fact, who believes Jonah Goldberg, Bill Kristol or Karl Rove now when they "analyze" the GOP field knowing they don't like anyone running/prefer one of their DC/NY elitist politician buddies as a candidate? Just remember that the Goldbergs, Roves, Kristols, Krauthammers of the media world have no direct power of their own in their jobs and derive their power from who they rub elbows with on a regular basis. That's why they want one of their DC/NY politicians (who they also believe can win) to head the ticket. It's in their own best interest.

Fox News, you have become the mainstream media, no different than the other elitist media types who suck up to Obama.

Welcome to what Ron Paul supports have been saying since 2008 :-)

Bias pre planned BS
This is problem when government and the media have already told you who the winner is, who the front runner is and who is leading in the polls.

Nothing but BS.

You should watch Penn and Teller (Bull****) on Frank Luntz.

You will soon be saying we everyone says as soon has you see his stupid face.. F U FRANK
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Old 09-15-2011, 07:05 PM
 
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How can Fox News use Frank Luntz to moderate its post debate focus groups? Wasn't he one of the group of elitist Republican "Inside The Beltway" boys along with Bill Kristol, Jonah Goldberg, Karl Rove and other fuddy duddy Republicans trying to persuade Paul Ryan (no executive experience, shared 13% approval rating) to run? That means Luntz wasn't happy with the GOP field (which is currently everyone in the race and on the debate stage). I was appalled at the way he conducted the focus group after the last debate, leading the participants to agree with his obvious bias.

Fox News should 86 him for all of the post GOP debate focus groups.

In fact, who believes Jonah Goldberg, Bill Kristol or Karl Rove now when they "analyze" the GOP field knowing they don't like anyone running/prefer one of their DC/NY elitist politician buddies as a candidate? Just remember that the Goldbergs, Roves, Kristols, Krauthammers of the media world have no direct power of their own in their jobs and derive their power from who they rub elbows with on a regular basis. That's why they want one of their DC/NY politicians (who they also believe can win) to head the ticket. It's in their own best interest.

Fox News, you have become the mainstream media, no different than the other elitist media types who suck up to Obama.

I agree with you on Luntz being biased and I was extremely annoyed not only with him, but his 'sample' focus group which was obviously stacked. The funny thing is I was probably annoyed with it for a different reason than you were...lol. Maybe he is not as biased as we think!
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:52 PM
 
Location: NY
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What, are we all political virgins here?

Whoever claimed Luntz was impartial? He's a Republican pollster. BFD. CNN has their pollsters, as do all the other media outlets that run polls.
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:33 PM
 
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LauraC, where ya been? Pretty good return Thread

How bout 'Fair and ImBalanced', Hannity...Luntz controller?
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Old 09-15-2011, 11:28 PM
 
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What, are we all political virgins here?

Whoever claimed Luntz was impartial? He's a Republican pollster. BFD. CNN has their pollsters, as do all the other media outlets that run polls.

I know he is a Republican, what I was referring to is his obvious leanings toward one particular person running for the nomination. Fox in general is pushing that agenda though, along with some of the radio personalities also. What I really find amusing is that the left wing media is pushing the same candidate so somebody is obviously confused...lol.
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