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Old 09-23-2011, 03:57 PM
 
Location: SC
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i would certainly hope that obama isn't keeping them there to "help the economy" because that would mean he is clueless. we are building the infrastructures of other countries (and rebuilding every time they get bombed), and none of that money comes back here.

our fuel prices are up because we pay too much for fuel and electricity over there (google how much we spend to air condition tents in afghanistan) it's the law of supply and demand. we also waste a lot of fuel with transportation costs. we would have lower fuel prices if not for the wars.

our soldiers have to eat and sleep there, which doesn't benefit us.

bring them home and put them on the border.

that would slow down some of the economic job bleeding that we are experiencing right now. the money those soldiers spend then will be on OUR infrastructure, food, businesses, clothing, housing, etc.

an automatic transfer of wealth back to the US in 2 different directions-who could be against that?

plus, families could be reunited and that's better for everyone.
Right! Thank-you. It shouldn't be that difficult to understand.
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Old 09-27-2011, 06:24 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What impact will ending all wars and decreasing the Defense budget have on President Ron Paul's economy? Has he ever talked about it?

You know, there are a lot of people, employed in the private sector, who make things for and/or provide services for our troops on the ground, in the air and on the sea. Think of all those private sector people out of work, some of those private sector businesses going down entirely plus all of those soldiers, when the military size is cut, out on the street looking for work.

In fact, although he's never mentioned it, I kind of think President Obama isn't so gung ho at ending the wars now because his advisors have probably told him it will make the Obama economy a lot worse than what it is, despite his ideological desires.
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He will have to enforce the illegal alien laws!

Just like they did after WW-I & WW-II & Vietnam





I guess no one took me seriously.

200,000 troops without a job, but still collecting a small check from the government.

Now we have a low estimate of 11 million illegals, doing many many construction jobs. Yes, jobs good `ol Americans will gladly do.
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Old 09-27-2011, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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i would certainly hope that obama isn't keeping them there to "help the economy" because that would mean he is clueless. we are building the infrastructures of other countries (and rebuilding every time they get bombed), and none of that money comes back here.

our fuel prices are up because we pay too much for fuel and electricity over there (google how much we spend to air condition tents in afghanistan) it's the law of supply and demand. we also waste a lot of fuel with transportation costs. we would have lower fuel prices if not for the wars.

our soldiers have to eat and sleep there, which doesn't benefit us.

bring them home and put them on the border.

that would slow down some of the economic job bleeding that we are experiencing right now. the money those soldiers spend then will be on OUR infrastructure, food, businesses, clothing, housing, etc.

an automatic transfer of wealth back to the US in 2 different directions-who could be against that?

plus, families could be reunited and that's better for everyone.
I also think we could put soldiers on the border but not all of them. I would really be surprised to find out that no economic study has been done for ending all wars and military presence in foreign countries and its impact on the defense industry private sector as it relates to the economy and employment. I just don't see or hear anyone talking about it, not even in the media. My assumption would be Ron Paul has thought out what it would mean in current economic times. But Ron Paul has no executive experience. Does he really know how it will play out (have the data to back it up) or is he just guessing/projecting/thinking ideallistically? I'm still betting President Obama's team HAS thought it out, they have done an impact study, and that's why we still have the military all over the place despite his ideology. He can't afford to have that unemployment rate go a lot higher before the next election and more private industry companies go down.

After the next election, however, if more people go on the dole, he figures that will eventually benefit Democrats since they will rely on Democrats for entitlements. That's why he's really pushing food stamps now, isn't it? Make more people dependent on Democrats?
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Old 09-27-2011, 08:39 AM
 
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I also think we could put soldiers on the border but not all of them. I would really be surprised to find out that no economic study has been done for ending all wars and military presence in foreign countries and its impact on the defense industry private sector as it relates to the economy and employment. I just don't see or hear anyone talking about it, not even in the media. My assumption would be Ron Paul has thought out what it would mean in current economic times. But Ron Paul has no executive experience. Does he really know how it will play out (have the data to back it up) or is he just guessing/projecting/thinking ideallistically? I'm still betting President Obama's team HAS thought it out, they have done an impact study, and that's why we still have the military all over the place despite his ideology. He can't afford to have that unemployment rate go a lot higher before the next election and more private industry companies go down.

After the next election, however, if more people go on the dole, he figures that will eventually benefit Democrats since they will rely on Democrats for entitlements. That's why he's really pushing food stamps now, isn't it? Make more people dependent on Democrats?
After WWII, once most of our soldiers had come home-- between 1951 and 1953 we had some of the lowest unemployment ever in this country (2.5 - 3%)
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Old 09-27-2011, 08:55 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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After WWII, once most of our soldiers had come home-- between 1951 and 1953 we had some of the lowest unemployment ever in this country (2.5 - 3%)

Operation W.E.T.B.A.C.K, President IKE implemented, had a very big effect on those numbers.

How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:03 AM
 
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After WWII, once most of our soldiers had come home-- between 1951 and 1953 we had some of the lowest unemployment ever in this country (2.5 - 3%)
Wasn't that in large part due to us ramping up manufacturing to replace all the stuff blown up and destroyed during the war?
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:24 AM
 
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What impact will ending all wars and decreasing the Defense budget have on President Ron Paul's economy? Has he ever talked about it?

You know, there are a lot of people, employed in the private sector, who make things for and/or provide services for our troops on the ground, in the air and on the sea. Think of all those private sector people out of work, some of those private sector businesses going down entirely plus all of those soldiers, when the military size is cut, out on the street looking for work.

In fact, although he's never mentioned it, I kind of think President Obama isn't so gung ho at ending the wars now because his advisors have probably told him it will make the Obama economy a lot worse than what it is, despite his ideological desires.
Isn't it sad when one thinks we need to kill or maim our
fellow citizens in the name of the economy...

What President Paul can do with our troops when they
come home is put some of them at our borders
protecting our citizens at home. Having them at our ports as well would be nice.
I am sure private industry will be motivated
to HIRE any ex military that has served their country as
well as first in line for franchises with reduced fees.

And, if you'd really like to boost the economy - lift the prohibition on industrial hemp
the saving grace for our economy
and end dependence on the Middle East for oil or politics or to produce excessive Weapons/Arms.

Sometimes a society has to recreate "what" they produce
to compete

Hemp - Could Save America

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