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Old 08-19-2007, 11:37 PM
 
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Fred Thompson should be making his announcement to run for president sometime in September.

He has been holding off his announcement for various reasons. Instead of working against him, this delay in announcing seems to be helping him.

Months ago, I made up two polls of the announced (And unannounced) candiates for both parties at: PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION 2008 Although, they are far from professional polls, Fred's numbers have only been increasing. What do you think about Thompson's chances?

Which 2008 Republican Candidate For President Would You Vote For
http://capmarine.freepolls.com/cgi-b...oll_center.htm

Rudy Giuliani 14%

Fred Dalton Thompson 57%

John McCain 4%

Duncan Hunter 2%

Mitt Romney 1%

Ron Paul 10%

Newt Gingrich 4%

Chuck Hagel 4%

Tom Tancredo 3%

Sam Brownback 1%

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Which 2008 Democrat Candidate For President Would You Vote For:
http://capmarine.freepolls.com/cgi-b...oll_center.htm

Hillary Rodham Clinton 13%

Dennis Kucinich 13%

Wesley Clark 7%

Barack Obama 29%

Joe Biden 7%

Al Gore 9%

John Kerry 1%

Bill Richardson 12%

Christopher Dodd 3%

John Edwards 6%


Although, the above poll says something different, I do not think Barack Obama has a chance against Hillary. Barack Obama's comments are beginning to get embarassing for the Democrat Party.
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Old 08-20-2007, 12:43 AM
 
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Among Republicans, sure. He can pander to the disillusioned Conservative base and duke out that position with Romney. Ultimately, no one cares. Do you really think America will elect a conservative Republican? Giuliani has a shot, Ron Paul is interesting. Pres. Thompson, thats laughable.
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Old 08-20-2007, 07:16 AM
 
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Among Republicans, sure. He can pander to the disillusioned Conservative base and duke out that position with Romney. Ultimately, no one cares. Do you really think America will elect a conservative Republican? Giuliani has a shot, Ron Paul is interesting. Pres. Thompson, thats laughable.

A lot of people were saying similar things when Dubya ran for reelection.....
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Old 08-20-2007, 08:02 AM
 
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A lot of people were saying similar things when Dubya ran for reelection.....
Fooled once, shame on you. Fooled twice... Only so many times people will put their hand on the stove before they figure out they are getting burned.
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Old 08-20-2007, 08:09 AM
 
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Hard to say about Fred Thompson, as he is a Neoconservative, not a conservative. He was one of the biggest supporters of the Scooter Libby defense fund and one of President Bush's biggest advocates for promoting the continuation of the war in Iraq.

Right now, about 75% of the American population are against the war and according to a Zogby poll back in Feb. nearly 74% of US soldiers claimed they should leave Iraq. This may be one of the reasons that the bulk of US military personnel are supporting Ron Paul this election. No one wants to continue the war and if Fred Thompson is still suggesting we need to stay, then this will greatly diminish his chances of winning the general election, even if he gets the Republican nomination.


Zogby International (http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075 - broken link)
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Old 08-20-2007, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Hard to say about Fred Thompson, as he is a Neoconservative, not a conservative. He was one of the biggest supporters of the Scooter Libby defense fund and one of President Bush's biggest advocates for promoting the continuation of the war in Iraq.

Right now, about 75% of the American population are against the war and according to a Zogby poll back in Feb. nearly 74% of US soldiers claimed they should leave Iraq. This may be one of the reasons that the bulk of US military personnel are supporting Ron Paul this election. No one wants to continue the war and if Fred Thompson is still suggesting we need to stay, then this will greatly diminish his chances of winning the general election, even if he gets the Republican nomination.


Zogby International (http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075 - broken link)
That poll is over 18 months old, has Zogby done a more current survey? If so, what did it disclose?

Where did you get the information that most US military personnel support Ron Paul? What is the source for this data?
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Old 08-20-2007, 08:22 AM
 
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Yes, the zogby poll is 18 months old and one could extrapolate that US troops are not supporting the war in Iraq more now anymore then they were back in Feb06. 18 months is almost the length of a tour of duty, yet another tour that many had not planned on.

As to the numbers to support that, well I can't do other peoples homework, just google it, since it is on about a zillion different websites. The numbers were based donations from people in the military.

Military support for the republican candidates » The Truth @ The Spin Factor

IraqSlogger: Antiwar Ron Paul Rakes in Military Donations?

Also note that according to that, 0% support from the military for Fred Thompson.
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:02 AM
 
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I do not know if he will become the Republican candidate if he does not change his tune about the Medicare Prescription Drug Plan....Too many active voters (Left and right) rely on this benefit...

The republicans have to have a more centrist candidate to win....
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Old 08-20-2007, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Yes, the zogby poll is 18 months old and one could extrapolate that US troops are not supporting the war in Iraq more now anymore then they were back in Feb06. 18 months is almost the length of a tour of duty, yet another tour that many had not planned on.

As to the numbers to support that, well I can't do other peoples homework, just google it, since it is on about a zillion different websites. The numbers were based donations from people in the military.

Military support for the republican candidates » The Truth @ The Spin Factor

IraqSlogger: Antiwar Ron Paul Rakes in Military Donations?

Also note that according to that, 0% support from the military for Fred Thompson.
Both references go back to a single source site, thespinfactor.com. I find it interesting that discussions about other potential republican nominees seem to always revert to Paul. I hope he gets more media attention very soon, I would like to see how it impacts his poll numbers.

I hope Fred gets involved pretty soon, I'm anxious to see how he impacts Romney's support.
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:16 AM
 
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Fred is a bought and paid for Neo-Con wearing a Reagan costume. Only Ron Paul is the real deal, and only Ron Paul could beat Hillary Clinton.
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