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Old 10-19-2011, 12:36 AM
 
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My question should in no way be construed as an attack against Rep. Paul, but...

Congressman Paul has been a member of Congress since 1997 and not once has he been able to pass a major piece of legislation and certainly nothing on the scale of which he is currently promoting as a candidate for the Presidency. His policies have little support within the Congress or the Senate nor do his views reflect the current thinking of either the leadership of the Republican or Democratic Parties. So absent a whole sale change of the Congress on a scale never before seen, how would President Paul enacted any of his major policy points?
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Old 10-19-2011, 12:45 AM
 
Location: South Dakota
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You have to believe that sanity will prevail...

You cant solve a ruinous debt crisis by continuing to borrow $$$ to pay the bills...

Any kind of talk rationalizing continuing to borrow to pay for a government that's out of control is insane...

Ron could do a better job of attacking all these Neocon's on the fact that none of em have a real plan to cut spending...

Maybe you think Government is fine as is and we just need Hope and Change to turn things around...
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Old 10-19-2011, 12:56 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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He'll hopefully run through a few thousand veto pens in his first year if need be.
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Old 10-19-2011, 01:01 AM
 
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You have to believe that sanity will prevail...
Realpolitic is not governed by "sanity", giving you the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the idea of what is sane and what is not.

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Maybe you think Government is fine as is and we just need Hope and Change to turn things around...
This tread is not a policy debate, it is thread to discuss the ability to govern and bring one's policies to fruition. If you don't have insights to share in that regard, please just move along.

Thank you.
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Old 10-19-2011, 01:01 AM
 
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My question should in no way be construed as an attack against Rep. Paul, but...

Congressman Paul has been a member of Congress since 1997 and not once has he been able to pass a major piece of legislation and certainly nothing on the scale of which he is currently promoting as a candidate for the Presidency. His policies have little support within the Congress or the Senate nor do his views reflect the current thinking of either the leadership of the Republican or Democratic Parties. So absent a whole sale change of the Congress on a scale never before seen, how would President Paul enacted any of his major policy points?
With a 13 percent approval rating of Congress, I doubt when Ron Paul
becomes President, passage of major pieces of legislation will be a problem. Elections have consequence...
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:09 AM
 
Location: Texas
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My question should in no way be construed as an attack against Rep. Paul, but...

Congressman Paul has been a member of Congress since 1997 and not once has he been able to pass a major piece of legislation and certainly nothing on the scale of which he is currently promoting as a candidate for the Presidency. His policies have little support within the Congress or the Senate nor do his views reflect the current thinking of either the leadership of the Republican or Democratic Parties. So absent a whole sale change of the Congress on a scale never before seen, how would President Paul enacted any of his major policy points?
The Fed audit was his although it got watered down in the Senate.
As President he has executive orders and would not have used them to get involved in the current foreign occupations.
He would use an executive order to overturn other presidents executive orders as only Congress can pass laws.

from a recent debate


fyi '79-'84 he was in office and also for most of 1976
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:26 AM
 
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He'll hopefully run through a few thousand veto pens in his first year if need be.
i agree completely!
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Old 10-19-2011, 05:47 AM
 
Location: SC
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My question should in no way be construed as an attack against Rep. Paul, but...

Congressman Paul has been a member of Congress since 1997 and not once has he been able to pass a major piece of legislation and certainly nothing on the scale of which he is currently promoting as a candidate for the Presidency. His policies have little support within the Congress or the Senate nor do his views reflect the current thinking of either the leadership of the Republican or Democratic Parties. So absent a whole sale change of the Congress on a scale never before seen, how would President Paul enacted any of his major policy points?
If the audit the Fed bill isn't not only major but MOMENTOUS and good for the country, I don't know what example of recent legislation passed would be. Please give us an example of legislation that has passed that hasn't been harmful to the country. TOO MUCH legislation has passed and it is all NEGATIVE. Why would anyone running for president want to be associated with ANY of it! Hopefully Ron Paul voted against it.
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Old 10-19-2011, 06:05 AM
 
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My question should in no way be construed as an attack against Rep. Paul, but...

Congressman Paul has been a member of Congress since 1997 and not once has he been able to pass a major piece of legislation and certainly nothing on the scale of which he is currently promoting as a candidate for the Presidency. His policies have little support within the Congress or the Senate nor do his views reflect the current thinking of either the leadership of the Republican or Democratic Parties. So absent a whole sale change of the Congress on a scale never before seen, how would President Paul enacted any of his major policy points?
A good point that I have pondered.

After all, the President cannot submit bills into Congress. He must have someone in Congress do so for him (traditionally, the President's budget will be submitted by a member of his party, such as the Speaker, in the House).

For instance, Mr. Paul may call for the legalization of illicit drugs all he wants, but if no member of Congress is willing to submit such a bill, then it is all empty air.

I do imagine that he will have quite a few members willing to submit bills concerning his fiscal views.
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Old 10-19-2011, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I wish it were otherwise but Ron Paul cannot possibly win the R nomination. He ran a great campaign in 2008 and didn't even win one primary. So the question of how he would get anything done as prez is really moot.
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