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Old 11-17-2011, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It's really funny to watch people who have no problem identifying who people are as long as it's citizan status...

...flip out on any of the rambling threads about RFID's and identification.

Better when you find some one rambling they are the mark of the beast.
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Question Perry Town Hall Guests Asked To Prove Citizenship

Back here in Texas, illegals w/o citizenship get in-state tution at taxpayer supported colleges.

Why does Perry hate New Hampshire citizens?
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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It's called "freedom"
And to whom is that "freedom" promised, here in the United States? My guess is that it's promised to citizens and those who come here legally, and that illegals should have no expectation of freedom here, as no promise of freedom has ever been made to those who come here illegally.
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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And to whom is that "freedom" promised, here in the United States? My guess is that it's promised to citizens and those who come here legally, and that illegals should have no expectation of freedom here, as no promise of freedom has ever been made to those who come here illegally.
Yeah, and it's easy to tell by looking at them if you need to check their status, huh?
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:32 AM
 
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Perhaps someone needs to mail a copy of the 4th amendment of the Constitution to Rick Perry

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4th Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_...s_Constitution
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Besides the Constitution, where else does it say that.
The Supreme Court also said that in Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada, 542 U.S. 177 (2004).

The only information anyone is required to provide is their full legal name. Verification of that information falls on law enforcement to determine, not the individual providing the information.
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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Yeah, and it's easy to tell by looking at them if you need to check their status, huh?
The way I read the article, EVERYONE was asked whether they were citizens. No one was identified "by looking at them."
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:35 AM
 
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The way I read the article, EVERYONE was asked whether they were citizens. No one was identified "by looking at them."
which means there was no probable cause, I'll post the 4th again in case you missed it

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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The way I read the article, EVERYONE was asked whether they were citizens. No one was identified "by looking at them."
Right.
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Perhaps someone needs to mail a copy of the 4th amendment of the Constitution to Rick Perry



Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Fourth Amendment only applies to government. The private sector is not constrained or restricted by anything in the US Constitution.
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