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12-08-2011, 06:27 AM
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Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Is Obama the Worst President in US History?
Nope...it would be a toss up between Reagan and Baby Bush as to which POTUS did the most damage to America.
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12-08-2011, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by muleskinner
Is Obama the Worst President in US History?
Nope...it would be a toss up between Reagan and Baby Bush as to which POTUS did the most damage to America.
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I suppose Washington and Lincoln would be on your short list too...
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12-08-2011, 06:45 AM
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Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Originally Posted by Bideshi
I suppose Washington and Lincoln would be on your short list too...
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IF you compare Washinton or Lincoln in any way to Bush or Reagan you are ignorant beyond help.
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12-08-2011, 11:57 AM
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Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Liberals will say its George W Bush. In reality it's too soon to to really tell from a historical perspective. Everybody thought Truman was horrible but looking back he wasn't that bad.
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12-09-2011, 08:12 AM
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Location: Paranoid State
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Originally Posted by bchris02
Liberals will say its George W Bush. In reality it's too soon to to really tell from a historical perspective. Everybody thought Truman was horrible but looking back he wasn't that bad.
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Actually, conservatives will say Bush is nearly as bad as Obama. Bush was far too liberal, leading the charge to create a Medicare benefit for prescription medicine for example. His rationale at the time, as many pundits have noted, was that Democrats were always viewed by analogy as the "life of the party" while Republicans were viewed as the party that "took the punch bowl away." Of course, it could also be said that Republicans historically were more responsible with other people's money, but it didn't make many friends.
Bush also spent money like a drunken sailor, showering Federal money on key farm states in an attempt to help Republican senatorial candidates defeat key vulnerable Democratic senators.
Of course, Obama has clearly been much worse, racking up more debt in 4 years than all Presidents before him combined, most of which went to his supporters in unions and benefactors in Chicago.
Obama is not incompetent. It is not merely that he has never held a job in the private sector where he, you know, contributed to GDP. He knows exactly what he's doing. Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University. They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands.
ObamaCare had little to do with providing health care but was mostly about unionizing tens of thousands of health care providers and adding 20,000 new unionized IRS agents. Obama doesn't care about providing health care to 30+ million Americans; he wants to cement 30 million voters to being dependent on the State & Big Government.
His failed Cap and Trade legislation wasn't about global warming; it was about redistribution of income and government intervention in the economy.
I could go on, but you get the idea.
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12-13-2011, 12:58 PM
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Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Originally Posted by Sunny-Days-in-Florida
With his dirty little hands in Fast and Furious. With his dirty hands in Solyndra and all the other fake energy deals he is for sure the most corrupt we have had in our lifetimes.
Add in his massive lies, failures, mistakes and stolen tax money disguised as the stimulus and another one called jobs act we can all see this man is totally scammed the American people into who he is, what he is all about and what his agenda for American REALLY is.
We simply cannot afford to allow his wrongful ways to continue and we must defeat him badly so we can at least have hope that our future has a chance.
Anyone who voted for this man and could not see right through him just based on his 3 1/2 year record should be ashamed of themselves.
Sad day when people are still standing up for him after the division and mess he has created in America.
By far the worst we have ever had and he is not done damaging America yet.
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I started to really type what I wanted to say but instead I refrain and will continue a polite discourse.Although distasteful as you disdainful remarks for any sitting president who has broken no laws.
Yet by your words: "should be ashamed of themselves" and other judgmental (and im sure hypocritical).I may subtly veer off the aforementioned discourse.
I'd be willing to bet you voted for W Bush twice and probably Reagan too.
W Bush for "cause for war" and Reagan for his "famous I dont recall Iran Contra hearings".Yet you have the audacity to question ANYONES motive or rights as a citizen to vote for the person whom they deem worthy?Or "damaging" America?  If I were a betting man Im sure I know exactly what your view of a "perfect Union" would look like.
In fact lets have it out:Who is Obama really ?You stated like he's hiding it.So what his "master plan" once he finishes "damaging" this country(because it was in GREAT shape before him  ).You seem to know.Im sure after hes done damaging it,he and Michelle are going to live in Versailles paid for by the French Government.  Or worse yet maybe he gonna go head the Taliban in Afghanistan! 
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12-13-2011, 01:17 PM
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Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Originally Posted by bchris02
Liberals will say its George W Bush. In reality it's too soon to to really tell from a historical perspective. Everybody thought Truman was horrible but looking back he wasn't that bad.
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Liberals?Ok...right.So the only ones who do this are "liberals"? 
You dont need a historical perspective to see that loosing over 4000 troops for a war that yielded no real results compared to all the deaths is unjust and erroneous.
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12-13-2011, 02:53 PM
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Location: Cape Coral
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Originally Posted by Smash255
The Community Reinvestment Act didn't force banks to do stated income asset loans. Nor did it force the banks to do no income no doc loans. Nor did it force the banks to come up with the crazy option arms. The option arms didn't even exist until more than 25 years after that was passed.
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Wrong again!
The Community Reinvestment Act was signed into law in 1977 by President Carter. The Act requires banking institutions insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, or FDIC, to be evaluated by their federal regulators for the loans made to low and moderate income borrowers and to poor communities. The act forced banks to make these loans, which the banks would have rejected otherwise as financially unsound.
Community Reinvestment Act Mortgage Crisis: Yes, Community Reinvestment Act regulations are to blame for mortgage crisis - Sun Sentinel
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12-13-2011, 02:59 PM
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Location: Michigan
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Originally Posted by bchris02
Everybody thought Truman was horrible but looking back he wasn't that bad.
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Depends who you ask.
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12-13-2011, 03:09 PM
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Location: Cape Coral
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Originally Posted by simetime
I always wondered why so many people put so much emphasizes on these polls in the first place. Have you ever taken one of these polls? Do you know anyone who has? I guess that it never occurred to some of these people that the majority of people do not take these polls and even the ones that do they sometimes change their minds 
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hahahahaha When Obama's poll numbers are plummeting polls don't matter!hahahaha
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