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Old 11-21-2011, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Old 11-21-2011, 04:32 PM
 
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He has increased or National debt by a record $5 trillion in three years. This with a major war in Iraq winding down. Unemployment has increased from 6.5% when he was elected to 9.1%. He has overseen worse racial strife and has been less transparent in contrast to what he promised in his campaign. Even democrats have to be unhappy that his failed policies have cost the party the house and soon will cost them the senate and the presidency.
No no no no.... Mr. Bush will go down in history as being the worst President in history. Thanks to him and his war loving VP Dick, they have cause this financial meltdown and I blame it on them. Obama was left holding this bag of s*** that Bush handed over after the damage was already done.
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Old 11-21-2011, 04:34 PM
 
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Yes.
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Old 11-21-2011, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Loans the the banks were forced to give, to people that could not afford them, by the Community Redevelopment Act. All the banks did was find a way to get these bad loans off their balance sheets.

The Community Reinvestment Act didn't force banks to do stated income asset loans. Nor did it force the banks to do no income no doc loans. Nor did it force the banks to come up with the crazy option arms. The option arms didn't even exist until more than 25 years after that was passed.
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Old 11-21-2011, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Not even close. Has hasn't contributed to 4,000 american deaths or had almost 3,000 die in a terrorist attack that could have been prevented nor did he sit by while to economy tanked and millions lost their jobs and homes. Nope not even close to the one and only worst president, Mr George W. Bush.
Obama has only contributed to 2,000 of those 4,000 deaths. 60% of the soldiers killed in Afghanistan have happened under Obamas watch. Soldiers continue to be killed every week under Obama, or is that still Bushs fault 3 years later? Obama certainly hasn't done anything to accelerate the exit strategy the Bush administration implemented.

The 3,000 American civilians were killed by terrorists that Clinton failed to stop - twice - 8 months after Bush was inaugurated, how exactly was he supposed to stop that?

Of course that ignores the 7,500 who were killed while Clinton was president so by your measure that would make him one of the worst presidents.

Obama does get much of the credit for tanking the economy since he was part of the Senate that caused it, and he's certainly done nothing to improve it since then other than triple the debt. He has excelled at spending other peoples money.

Obama may not be the worst president in history (yet) but he's doing the best he can to win that position.
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:33 PM
 
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Well, he's the most successfull de ocrat since LBJ as far as his domestic agenda goes, and thus far without the Vietnam quagmire. He passed near-universal health care, essentially rescued the auto industry, turned around the worst economy since the depression, expended rights for LGBTs, began reregulating the banks that played a major role in the 2008 financial crisis, dumped Bin Laden's body in the ocean, and got out of the expensive and distracting Iraq war, and with an absurd republican opposition that has given us nothing but brinksmanship and refusal to contribute in any way to fixing any problem.

So actually, he's probably the single best president in decades.

Now, if you want to talk about true failures, you have to go to James Buchanan, or William Henry Harrison. The former basically sat around as the US fell apart, and the latter basically died and took his entire party with him.
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Obama has only contributed to 2,000 of those 4,000 deaths. 60% of the soldiers killed in Afghanistan have happened under Obamas watch. Soldiers continue to be killed every week under Obama, or is that still Bushs fault 3 years later? Obama certainly hasn't done anything to accelerate the exit strategy the Bush administration implemented.

The 3,000 American civilians were killed by terrorists that Clinton failed to stop - twice - 8 months after Bush was inaugurated, how exactly was he supposed to stop that?

Of course that ignores the 7,500 who were killed while Clinton was president so by your measure that would make him one of the worst presidents.

Obama does get much of the credit for tanking the economy since he was part of the Senate that caused it, and he's certainly done nothing to improve it since then other than triple the debt. He has excelled at spending other peoples money.

Obama may not be the worst president in history (yet) but he's doing the best he can to win that position.
Obama caused 2000 deaths in Iraq? When?
7,500 by Clinton, where and when?

I guess you are blind to the number killed during Bush's 2 terms but of course that is the republican way.
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:04 PM
 
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He has increased or National debt by a record $5 trillion in three years. This with a major war in Iraq winding down. Unemployment has increased from 6.5% when he was elected to 9.1%. He has overseen worse racial strife and has been less transparent in contrast to what he promised in his campaign. Even democrats have to be unhappy that his failed policies have cost the party the house and soon will cost them the senate and the presidency.
Nope. I think you have (deliberately) misused some statistics that need some context.
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Thrill Is Gone? Matthews Turns On Obama; 'I Hear Stories That You Would Not Believe' - YouTube

I'm not a fan of Matthews, but he hits the nail on the head.
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The Community Reinvestment Act didn't force banks to do stated income asset loans. Nor did it force the banks to do no income no doc loans. Nor did it force the banks to come up with the crazy option arms. The option arms didn't even exist until more than 25 years after that was passed.
All it did was encourage banks to make loans to people who were bad risks. Why increase the risk by lending to economic drunks? Well maybe if your losses were covered by the government.
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