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I have read his Ideas and disagree with Most of them, so much for that.
Well can you admit that Obama has not done what he said he would, whether by choice or by uncontrollable powers?
Why did Obama fail to fire Ben Bernanke, who was the consistently wrong Head Chairman of The Federal Reserve under GW Bush? Most would say that his economic views and those of Bush's economic advisors (that Obama has also reappointed to their positions) caused and have always caused our bubbles and recessions. He not only failed to fire Bernanke, he re-appointed him after the burst and recession.
Why did Obama fail to bring our troops home? It had already been written in the Bush Doctrine that all troops must be brought home by 12/31/11 no matter what.
Somebody has an agenda that the President cannot change. There is a reason no other candidate talks openly about The Federal Reserve other than Ron Paul. There is a reason he is dismissed by the media. Open your eyes.
YOU are welcome to sit down with the terrorists if you wish, I much prefer to end their existance. You act as if these are rational men you are talking about, and they represent themseves, not a people or country, what you are doing is exactly what they want. Thankfully there are still Americans left to defend the Nation so that the foolishness some profess to be a good idea can still be discussed. Isolationism is foolishness, reducing our abilty to defend ourselves by reducing the numbers of soldiers in uniform is foolishness. Paul is a FOOL, and unfit to be President, thankfully he never will be
HEAD SMACK!
We are in 130 countries! Are you implying that they are all run by terrorists?
Nope, some are and in other cases, such as South Korea, we are dealing with nut jobs that are very dangerous.
The point that you are missing is if we stay the hell out of their countries, they don't have much of a reason at all to come after us.
They are NOT coming after us SIMPLY because we are "free" and "prosperous".
What you have also missed, we don't need to actually BE in any of those countries. We have weapons that will find their mark in less than an hour, anywhere in the world. We do not NEED boots on the ground in 900 bases in 130 countries.
Ron Paul is a wack job when he speaks of these things. He has been in DC for so damn long can we blame him for this then? I mean he was a part of our foreign policy decisions for DECADES! Besides, being on someone's "holy" land is NOT justification to kill innocent people over it. If that can be used to justify attacks, then the USA can use the attacks themselves to justify nuking them right? It's a 2 way street here.
Let me get this straight. When they come and bomb us on 9/11, they kill innocent people. But when we go over them and kill ten of thousands of them, because we think taking out X (fill in the blank) is justified?
If an unstable man hold a class of children hostile with a knife, and instead of negotiating with the unstable man, the police storm into the classroom and open fire with their automatic machine guns. Killed the man and dozen of children. Your child is in this group of dead children.
Let me make this easier for you Casper. Which of these countries do you actually believe have "nut jobs" and "terrorists" ONLY and there is NO WAY we can ever work anything out with them, ever:
Is Paul apologizing to the terrorists now? Sorry we should not have been on your holy ground, please forgive us, we will pull everyone out and never step foot in the middle-east again, something like that? And he also believes he can turn back the clock and they will simply leave us alone, delusional is not a good trait for the President of the United States of America, no thanks I will pass on his isolantionist/defeatist ideas.
No what's delusional is thinking we can go where we want, when we want, bomb who we want and not expect any repercussions. Delusional is thinking we can maintain a 900 base on 130 countries trillion dollar empire when we're 15 trillion dollars in debt. If you don't think blowback is real ask the CIA or read the 9/11 commission reports. No one's "apologizing" to anyone, nor does Ron Paul blame "America," but he simply acknowledges reality: that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Keep up with your macho man chest beating chickenhawk foreign policy because you're not in the middle east catching bullets. Speaking as a veteran I can assure you the military and their families are sick of fighting and dying for special interests and so America can "save face" to the world.
When Ronald Reagan sent Marines into Lebanon he vowed he would never "turn tail and run," but after the bombing that killed the Marines over there he pulled them out. He said we can't understand the "irrationality of middle eastern politics." And I agree. It's not in our Constitution to be the policeman of the world and we are at a point in time where we simply can't afford to anymore. The irony is you call non-interventionism "dangerous" or "naive" but what is more dangerous and naive to continue on our unsustainable path? The more troops we send over there the more money we spend and the more they hate us. So in turn they kill more of our soldiers so we vow to send more and spend more money. The terrorists are winning. They are very close to defeating us because we are very close to financial collapse. After we collapse we'll be forced to draw back our empire.
Let me get this straight. When they come and bomb us on 9/11, they kill innocent people. But when we go over them and kill ten of thousands of them, because we think taking out X (fill in the blank) is justified?
If an unstable man hold a class of children hostile with a knife, and instead of negotiating with the unstable man, the police storm into the classroom and open fire with their automatic machine guns. Killed the man and dozen of children. Your child is in this group of dead children.
Why is your reaction to this?
This is exactly why people are upset.
Exactly. People need to start thinking in terms of what would we think if this was happening to us? What if China marched in and built bases in Washington D.C.? What if they said it was in their "national security" interests. What if they started bombing in our country and occasionally they would make a mistake and blow up a mall mistaking it for an "enemy stronghold?" What if your mother was in that mall? Or your daughter? What if the official policy of China was that anyone who dissented against their presence in our country was a "terrorist" and the target for death? What if the policy of China was if they could just kill enough Americans and spill enough blood maybe we would just give up? What if for every American they killed 10 more joined the fight?
The truth is we wouldn't want it to happen here so we shouldn't do it other nations and peoples. The irony is that so many people who support our aggressive and destructive foreign policy are Christians. What happened to loving your neighbor, treating others how you want to be treated, and blessed are the peacemakers?
No what's delusional is thinking we can go where we want, when we want, bomb who we want and not expect any repercussions. Delusional is thinking we can maintain a 900 base on 130 countries trillion dollar empire when we're 15 trillion dollars in debt.
What's even sadder/madder - until the Internet, I wonder how many folks even knew we had 900 bases in 130 countries...
I have to ask the obvious "Where does our government
get off thinking they can just spend tax payer dollars militarily on Anything THEY want, when it has nothing to do with "providing for the common defense".
The point that you are missing is if we stay the hell out of their countries, they don't have much of a reason at all to come after us.
They are NOT coming after us SIMPLY because we are "free" and "prosperous".
What you have also missed, we don't need to actually BE in any of those countries. We have weapons that will find their mark in less than an hour, anywhere in the world. We do not NEED boots on the ground in 900 bases in 130 countries.
Right, people often accuse Ron Paul of an "old fashioned" or "naive" foreign policy. But what is naive and old fashioned is thinking we need 900 bases around the globe anymore. We have subs and weapons that be anywhere in the world rather quickly. The idea of globe straddling is so old fashioned.
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