Gary Johnson threatening 3rd party run, feels abandoned by the republican party (Ron Paul, vote) - City-Data Forum

tropolis · 11-26-2011, 09:26 AM

Gary Johnson threatens third-party 2012 run - Alexander Burns - POLITICO.com

Paul people will go to him if Paul doesn't run 3rd party himself and Paul endorses Johnson.

I still think in the back of my mind that Paul will end up running as a 3rd party candidate. Why I think this way? He's not going back to the house after this term and this his last chance.

nmnita · 11-26-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tropolis

Gary Johnson threatens third-party 2012 run - Alexander Burns - POLITICO.com

Paul people will go to him if Paul doesn't run 3rd party himself and Paul endorses Johnson.

I still think in the back of my mind that Paul will end up running as a 3rd party candidate. Why I think this way? He's not going back to the house after this term and this his last chance.

I can believe Johnson would do this, but what 3rd party? Is he going to run as a libertarian or form a new one? That would determine how much support he gets. As for Paul, he has said "NO" this is it for him. I take him at his word. Some candidates say no, but you think they mean yes or could be swayed, others say it and it seem real: Christie, Paul and Hillary all seem to say what they mean. Of all people Paul would be the least likely to run on a third party ticket, Why? Because one of the things he comapaigns on, is I say what I mean so if he were to decide to run as a third party candidate it would show he doesn't mean what he says. I am not sure Paul cares as much about being Pres as he does about getting his word out.

Add to this, your read that in Politico..enough said.

Mr. Mon · 11-26-2011, 12:05 PM

Good for Johnson. I think he has some disastrous economic ideas but he's far more pragmatic than Paul. Problem is, pragmatic libertarianism doesn't get people excited and whipped-up in a frenzy. Also, it tends to be closer to social libertarianism you see in a growing number of younger democrats. The modern Republican party has no use for this and thus, no use for Johnson on a national level.

afoigrokerkok · 11-26-2011, 12:14 PM

This would be horrible for the GOP.

dixiegirl7 · 11-26-2011, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tropolis

Gary Johnson threatens third-party 2012 run - Alexander Burns - POLITICO.com

Paul people will go to him if Paul doesn't run 3rd party himself and Paul endorses Johnson.

I still think in the back of my mind that Paul will end up running as a 3rd party candidate. Why I think this way? He's not going back to the house after this term and this his last chance.

Ron Paul has a son who is just starting out in the GOP world of politics. Do you think he would do such a thing to his future? If he would, it would be very selfish and I don't think Ron Paul is like that when you get past his trying to garner attention for being different.

NorthGAbound12 · 11-26-2011, 12:44 PM

If Gary thinks it's hard to get into the debates and remain relevant running for the GOP nomination I think he's going to be in for a very rude awakening trying to run on a 3rd party ticket. For what it's worth I believe he's hinted at the fact he wants to run for the Libertarian Party nomination. Though in the event Ron doesn't capture the GOP nomination and doesn't run 3rd party RJ Harris is a MUCH better candidate than Gary Johnson, at least from my perspective. His principles and philosophy are much closer to mine. Gary Johnson has indicated support for "humanitarian" wars, is pro-choice in the sense he wants to use the force of the state to keep it law of the land, and is shaky on monetary policy.

RJ Harris 2012 Libertarian Candidate for President Campaign Political Issues (http://rjharris2012.com/index-2.html - broken link)

If you're a small government, pro-liberty, pro-sound money, pro-peace kind of person R.J. Harris is a much better choice than Gary Johnson.

NorthGAbound12 · 11-26-2011, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dixiegirl7

Ron Paul has a son who is just starting out in the GOP world of politics. Do you think he would do such a thing to his future? If he would, it would be very selfish and I don't think Ron Paul is like that when you get past his trying to garner attention for being different.

Uhhh yeah... it's called running for President! How come no one says this about Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich, that they're just running to "garner attention?" Ron Paul is running for President, he's going to try to get as much attention and support as he can possibly can. I mean Ron stands a much better shot of becoming President than Michele Bachmann or Rick Santorum and even Jon Huntsman yet no one accuses them of running vanity campaigns.

Also, for what it's worth Ron has all but taken an oath he won't run as a third party candidate. He's never given ANY indication that he would run as an independent, this whole thing is media fueled speculation aimed to undermine Ron's credibility.

dixiegirl7 · 11-26-2011, 01:21 PM

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Uhhh yeah... it's called running for President! How come no one says this about Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich, that they're just running to "garner attention?" Ron Paul is running for President, he's going to try to get as much attention and support as he can possibly can. I mean Ron stands a much better shot of becoming President than Michele Bachmann or Rick Santorum and even Jon Huntsman yet no one accuses them of running vanity campaigns.

Also, for what it's worth Ron has all but taken an oath he won't run as a third party candidate. He's never given ANY indication that he would run as an independent, this whole thing is media fueled speculation aimed to undermine Ron's credibility.

You took that completely out of context to what I meant. I was saying he would not run as a third party candidate. My point was that even though some of what he says seems a little out there, thus gets attention, he is still somewhat loyal to the party that he many times disagrees with.

crbcrbrgv · 11-26-2011, 03:47 PM

I hear Ron Paul is also threatening to run for president.

Fortunately for the other candidates, not too many Republicans are threatening to vote for him.

wehotex · 11-26-2011, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dixiegirl7

Ron Paul has a son who is just starting out in the GOP world of politics. Do you think he would do such a thing to his future? If he would, it would be very selfish and I don't think Ron Paul is like that when you get past his trying to garner attention for being different.

Ron paul & Rand Paul are two different men.