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Again, you're missing the point. Nixon was pardoned for political reasons, Newt was too, in a sense. No part of the ad was a lie. Not a single part, and your attempts at damage control are weaksauce. If he wasn't guilty, why spend 300k? Hmmm If he(yes, his company still = Newt) took money from Freddie Mac, then he took the money from a very corrupt organization. He made that choice. If there is nothing wrong with him taking the money, then why do you care so much that it is pointed out?
Now thats an outright lie as well. Newt was NOT pardoned, the IRS stated
NO IMPROPRIETIES IN THE TAX FILINGS of Gingrich and the sponsoring Progress and Freedom Foundation.
"The ... course taught principles from American civilization that could be used by each American in everyday life whether the person is a welfare recipient, the head of a large corporation, or a politician."
Now thats an outright lie as well. Newt was NOT pardoned, the IRS stated
NO IMPROPRIETIES IN THE TAX FILINGS of Gingrich and the sponsoring Progress and Freedom Foundation.
"The ... course taught principles from American civilization that could be used by each American in everyday life whether the person is a welfare recipient, the head of a large corporation, or a politician."
So you're inserting another argument into your assumptions of Ron's ad? The ad does not make any mentions of Newts foundation. So who is being dishonest now?
So you're inserting another argument into your assumptions of Ron's ad? The ad does not make any mentions of Newts foundation. So who is being dishonest now?
Yes it does.. The 84 charges were involving News relationship with his Foundation
Yes it does.. The 84 charges were involving News relationship with his Foundation
Which was not addressed by the ad. The ad had a highlight of a media outlet talking about "charges" not "violations" as you previously were misleading with your failed argument. The ad is designed ingeniously to open that door again, because many during that time recognized something very fishy about the charges not holding water due to fine technicalities. It shows how FAR he is willing to go, to be a crook. Newt is very smart, and he is a very dirty politician. There was NO LIE in the ad, just your insertion or misinterpretation.
He is using Newt's words and methods against him, which is completely just.
Which was not addressed by the ad. The ad had a highlight of a media outlet talking about "charges" not "violations" as you previously were misleading with your failed argument.
Wrong.. the ad says he was fined $300K for LYING.. Thats AFTER the chares were dismissed and he was found not guilty with most of the charges being "unfounded"..
You can sit here and pretend this is accurate, but since its not, whats that make you? Thats right, a lier.
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The ad is designed ingeniously to open that door again, because many during that time recognized something very fishy about the charges not holding water due to fine technicalities.
Wrong again.. They didnt hold water and it had nothing to do with fine technicality. They were dismissed for the most part as "unfounded accusation". Are you telling me the IRS was "fishy" and gave him a pass? What are you basing this lie on?
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It shows how FAR he is willing to go, to be a crook.
More lies, unless you can list the crimes he has committed..
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Newt is very smart, and he is a very dirty politician. There was NO LIE in the ad, just your insertion or misinterpretation.
This from the poster who hasnt stopped lying.. Give it a break.. If you cant even stop lying yourself, then why should I respect your opinion on what was or was not a lie?
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He is using Newt's words and methods against him, which is completely just.
Actually that wasnt Newt speaking about a $300K fine for "lying". Maybe you need to re-watch the video or at the very least stop lying about what it says.
Wrong.. the ad says he was fined $300K for LYING.. Thats AFTER the chares were dismissed and he was found not guilty with most of the charges being "unfounded"..
You can sit here and pretend this is accurate, but since its not, whats that make you? Thats right, a lier.
Wrong again.. They didnt hold water and it had nothing to do with fine technicality. They were dismissed for the most part as "unfounded accusation". Are you telling me the IRS was "fishy" and gave him a pass? What are you basing this lie on?
More lies, unless you can list the crimes he has committed..
This from the poster who hasnt stopped lying.. Give it a break.. If you cant even stop lying yourself, then why should I respect your opinion on what was or was not a lie?
Actually that wasnt Newt speaking about a $300K fine for "lying". Maybe you need to re-watch the video or at the very least stop lying about what it says.
Seems it would be safe to assume you intend to support Newt.
Wrong.. the ad says he was fined $300K for LYING.. Thats AFTER the chares were dismissed and he was found not guilty with most of the charges being "unfounded"..
You can sit here and pretend this is accurate, but since its not, whats that make you? Thats right, a lier.
Wrong again.. They didnt hold water and it had nothing to do with fine technicality. They were dismissed for the most part as "unfounded accusation". Are you telling me the IRS was "fishy" and gave him a pass? What are you basing this lie on?
More lies, unless you can list the crimes he has committed..
This from the poster who hasnt stopped lying.. Give it a break.. If you cant even stop lying yourself, then why should I respect your opinion on what was or was not a lie?
Actually that wasnt Newt speaking about a $300K fine for "lying". Maybe you need to re-watch the video or at the very least stop lying about what it says.
LOL, you just want to have a yelling contest? It wouldn't matter, because the ad is still factual and represents the original sources for each quote. If that is a lie, then you are wearing some big blinders.
Seems it would be safe to assume you intend to support Newt.
Its safe to assume that I dont like people LYING about about what actually took place.
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LOL, you just want to have a yelling contest? It wouldn't matter, because the ad is still factual and represents the original sources for each quote. If that is a lie, then you are wearing some big blinders.
Then show me the source of this $300K fine for LYING?
Show me where Newt was a lobbyiest? Hint, he wasnt. He was a consultant.
Dont blame me because you dont know the difference and dont mind being LIED to.. Thats YOUR problem.. not mine.
Its safe to assume that I dont like people LYING about about what actually took place.
Then show me the source of this $300K fine for LYING?
Show me where Newt was a lobbyiest? Hint, he wasnt. He was a consultant.
Dont blame me because you dont know the difference and dont mind being LIED to.. Thats YOUR problem.. not mine.
You don't like people 'lying'? Then I guess you don't like Newt Gingrich for 'lying' to his wife that he would be faithful to her 'for better of for worse'.
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If he(yes, his company still = Newt) took money from Freddie Mac, then he took the money from a very corrupt organization. He made that choice. If there is nothing wrong with him taking the money, then why do you care so much that it is pointed out?
