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Old 12-19-2011, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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The only poll that counts is the one coming next november
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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He won by 14,000 votes - that's with getting out every Left vote, every black vote, every dem vote, every youth vote.

Think he can duplicate that in 2012?
Really, you know every black, dem and youth voted and voted for Obama? Wow..Anyway, with changing demographics in both Carolinas and the GOP effectively alienating that demographic (and the ones aforementioned) it's probable that he'll again win the North and 50/50 that he takes the South. Those odds alone will force Newt Romney to pour money and resources into states that shouldn't have to defend. It aint looking good for the red team.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Lost it to whom, Newt, Romney?

LOLOLOLOL
Either. Obama is toast.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The only poll that counts is the one coming next november
True, but the media uses polls to shape opinion and narratives, they try to convince the electorate to believe their slant and "headline".
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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True, but the media uses polls to shape opinion and narratives, they try to convince the electorate to believe their slant and "headline".
Saved...and will be reproduced when the next rasmussen poll is posted. Thanks.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:38 PM
 
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Either. Obama is toast.
If Obama is toast, Newt is bacon.

A fat man has not won a Presidential election in over 100 years. Newt has a big hurdle to overcome. I have a feeling that the margin will be very wide
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Saved...and will be reproduced when the next rasmussen poll is posted. Thanks.
That's why you have to look at the average of all polls.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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Either. Obama is toast.
Newt and Willard are both disliked by their own party because they've been more liberal than Obama at certain points. It's eye opening that they are what has risen to the top. Says a lot about conservatism.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:41 PM
 
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That's why you have to look at the average of all polls.
Yes, but GOPers here don't unless the average suits their position. This poll doesn't so it's undermined. Just wait, there will be a rasmussen poll posted in short order.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:41 PM
 
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SOUTH CAROLINA? You actually believe obama can win SC?



MCCain won the state by 9 and you think with the economic condition of the country, with obama not likely to generate the same enthusiasm as 2008, you think he has a better chance in 2012 than in 2008?

Oh..please.
In SC: How many Evangelicals will turn out if their choice is either a Mormon or an serial adulterer? And how many African-Americans in the state do you think will vote for someone other than Obama? Don't count your chickens...

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Obama isn't even going to win Virginia this time. He has lost the independent vote.
It really depends on what the options are. Looking at the GOP field, the only good option for independents is Romney. Everyone else is too tied to the right-wing fringe (Perry), polling too low to survive (Huntsman), or just nutty (Bachmann, Paul, Santorum...). Gingrich may be a great "ideas man", but he has zero executive experience and a whole lot of baggage from his time in congress. If the Republicans lose this election, they will have no one to blame but themselves.
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