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Old 12-20-2011, 06:37 PM
 
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On Tuesday evening, Politico reported that former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson (http://topics.dailycaller.com/politics/gary-johnson.htm - broken link) would end his GOP presidential bid and run for president instead as a Libertarian Party candidate.

The official announcement will reportedly be made in Santa Fe on Dec. 28
Looks like I won't be voting in the Republican Primary after all. I had intended to vote for Gary Johnson in the Repo Primary but now I'll be holding my vote for Johnson in the Texas Libertarian primary.

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Old 12-20-2011, 07:10 PM
 
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I think this will all but verify Paul will NOT run third party when he doesn't get the R nom.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:22 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Imagine this scenario: Ron Paul wins the R nomination, and this being a 50-50 nation, Obama wins by one-half percent. Gary Johnson, running as a Libertarian, draws the usual libertarian candidate's 1 pct of the vote, which would have otherwise gone to Ron Paul and given Paul the half-percent victory margin.
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Old 12-21-2011, 02:38 AM
 
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obama just won new mexico with this. johnson gets 26-30 percent of the gop vote and 10-12 of the dem in nm.
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Old 12-21-2011, 02:43 AM
 
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He has to win the Libertarian primary first. Johnson is not a favorite to win the Libertarian Party nomination. He could win it, but I'm not entirely sure. Most of the Libertarians have moved over to support Paul and the rest that remain are very extreme. Some of you guys make Paul out to be extreme, but you haven't even tasted how diverse and deep libertarianism can get. That leave Gary Johnson with a lot of support from people who want to see full-reserve banking implemented, and a federal government that is 60-90% smaller. Which is considerably smaller than Johnson's 43% max plan.
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:15 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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obama just won new mexico with this. johnson gets 26-30 percent of the gop vote and 10-12 of the dem in nm.
A great point, trop. NM is a purple state, often up for grabs. Imagine Paul gets the R nomination and we get a replay of 2000, virtually a tie election. Meanwhile Gary Johnson throws NM to Obama, and denies Paul the WH. It's a little far-fetched, but we've seen a lot of far-fetched things come to pass in the last few years.
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Old 12-21-2011, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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A great point, trop. NM is a purple state, often up for grabs. Imagine Paul gets the R nomination and we get a replay of 2000, virtually a tie election. Meanwhile Gary Johnson throws NM to Obama, and denies Paul the WH. It's a little far-fetched, but we've seen a lot of far-fetched things come to pass in the last few years.
The dynamics of an Obama/Paul election would look very different. You won't get that red-south/midwest and blue-pacific/NE breakup. Obama could actually lose blue states like Oregon, Washington, PA, or NY to Paul. Obama is just too much establishment, pro-war, anti-drug and anti-civil rights and progressives care about those things, even more than a false sense of security. If anything it would drain Obama of resources as he's forced to campaign in what are supposed to be Dem lock states. The electoral map would look like something out of the Twilight Zone.
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Old 12-21-2011, 06:20 AM
 
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Looks like I won't be voting in the Republican Primary after all. I had intended to vote for Gary Johnson in the Repo Primary but now I'll be holding my vote for Johnson in the Texas Libertarian primary.

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Old 12-21-2011, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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The dynamics of an Obama/Paul election would look very different. You won't get that red-south/midwest and blue-pacific/NE breakup. Obama could actually lose blue states like Oregon, Washington, PA, or NY to Paul. Obama is just too much establishment, pro-war, anti-drug and anti-civil rights and progressives care about those things, even more than a false sense of security. If anything it would drain Obama of resources as he's forced to campaign in what are supposed to be Dem lock states. The electoral map would look like something out of the Twilight Zone.
Excellent points, and very well stated (lol@twilight zone)
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:16 AM
 
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If Paul were to run as a 3rd party candidate...I would bet he might choose Johnson as his mate. if Paul wins the GOP nomination....I doubt that Johnson would run a 3rd party bid
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