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Old 12-22-2011, 06:37 AM
 
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Hillary Clinton is a glorified housewife. She is not qualified to be president. Tell he to come back after she has actually run something before.
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Old 12-22-2011, 06:47 AM
 
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Why would anyone want to vote Hillary? What kind of good thing has she done or Bill has done.

Please don't tell me under Bill Clinton, there were million of jobs created. When did government starting creating private sector jobs?

He did one thing that mainstream media and economics don't talk about. He deregulated the Glass-Steagall Act that turned Wall street and bank into a casino, using the saver's money.
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Old 12-22-2011, 07:49 AM
 
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Well, someone said this to me the other day- that if she runs with Obama, he's voting for them.
Some people never learn. Lies, lies & more lies it's all we've gotten from these puppets. I refuse to vote for anyone except Ron Paul.
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Old 12-22-2011, 08:38 AM
 
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Barack Obama is essentially Jimmy Carter part 2. I don't know when the last time a standing president ran for and lost his party's nomination, but it'd be interesting to see it happen just once.

Having said that, I doubt she runs and if she does, I think she loses.
1884, though President Arthur had never before won a Presidential nomination, having become President in 1881 as Vice President when President Garfield was assassinated.

Also, 1868, but again, President Johnson had never before won the nomination, having become President due to Lincoln's assassination.

You have to go all the way back to President Pierce in 1856 to find a sitting elected President who tried and failed to gain the nomination for another term.

However, Clinton will not run for the glaringly obvious reason that the path to the White House does not run through a primary challenge. If a sitting President is so unpopular with his base (and Obama isn't -- look at the numbers) then that party's brand is inevitably so toxic no nominee from that party can win the general election. Clinton's best shot at the White House is to bid her time until 2016. The whole idea that she could win such a primary challenge is laughable. I'm surprised anyone thinks it to be so. Such people must have a very poor comprehension of American Presidential politics.
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Old 12-22-2011, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Oh hell, can't you folk's tell that Hillary (at 64 years of age) is just good and damn tired, worn out, pooped out, kaputen ??

She's been/done a lot of things in her life but being a spring chicken now isn't one of them.
She looks exhausted most of the time and has said she does not have any intentions of ever running for public office again. She is ready to get out of politics altogether. What part of this can libs not understand?

NIta
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Old 12-22-2011, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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No.

She wants to be VP with Obama.

She's not going to run against Obama for the nomination.

I have heard that she has said, that she wants to swap places with Joe Biden.
you can't be serious about her wanting to be VP, the Clintons and the Obama's are anything but best friends...

You have heard her say that or have heard someone else say that? Well most of us have herad her say anything but that.

Nita
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Old 12-22-2011, 09:06 AM
 
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American had the chance to nominate Hilary and blew it. Now we're stuck with a do-nothing congress and a president I am beginning to call twiddle because all he does is twiddle his thumbs. I would like to see Hilary as president but I doubt it will happen.

I think there is a great lady in the background I believe would be the best president in US history and she is Elizabeth Warren.
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Old 12-22-2011, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Riverside
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1884, though President Arthur had never before won a Presidential nomination, having become President in 1881 as Vice President when President Garfield was assassinated.

Also, 1868, but again, President Johnson had never before won the nomination, having become President due to Lincoln's assassination.

You have to go all the way back to President Pierce in 1856 to find a sitting elected President who tried and failed to gain the nomination for another term.

However, Clinton will not run for the glaringly obvious reason that the path to the White House does not run through a primary challenge. If a sitting President is so unpopular with his base (and Obama isn't -- look at the numbers) then that party's brand is inevitably so toxic no nominee from that party can win the general election. Clinton's best shot at the White House is to bid her time until 2016. The whole idea that she could win such a primary challenge is laughable. I'm surprised anyone thinks it to be so. Such people must have a very poor comprehension of American Presidential politics.
There is plenty of precedent for weak incumbants to face serious challanges from within their own party.

LBJ stepped aside for his VP in 1968, because of pending primary challenges from McCarthy and Bobby Kennedy. Ford was nearly ousted by Reagan in '76, and Carter by Teddy Kennedy in '80. GHWB had to fight off Pat Buchannan in '92.

There is plenty of reason to believe that, if he hadn't adopted a more leftist-populist stance six months ago, Obama might very well have faced a challenger from his own party in 2012.

But I agree that, now, it's not even a remote possibility. Although we've had reservations and concerns, us Dems are all-in with Obama now (and liking our chances).
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