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Old 12-29-2011, 07:11 AM
 
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Protecting human beings in the womb is not "extreme" as the pro-abortion butchers would like to spin it.
It is when the mother may die in the process!! Are you that clueless, that you don't realize if a woman's life is in danger while pregnant, and she can't get an abortion and dies from complications, the fetus dies too?

Apparently unborn human beings should be protected, but women who had sex shouldn't because they are evil sinners.

You people don't give a crap about life. You'd throw that baby out on the street as soon as it's born, especially if it's a welfare family. All you care about is punishing women for having sex.
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Old 12-29-2011, 07:12 AM
 
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Bachmann accused Obama of making abortion pills available for 8 year olds by placing them in candy aisles.

Stay crazy Bachmann.



Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, and Santorum Go Extreme on Abortion - The Daily Beast
Yes, they are extreme, women hating nutjobs..


BUT

at least they're more honest than the anti-choicers who say abortion is "killing a baby" but then flip flop and say it's OK in the case of rape, incest or if the mother's life is in danger.

If it's "killing a baby" in one instance it's STILL "killing a baby" in ALL instances.

An abortion is an abortion.

Santorums are anti-abortion in public and pro choice in private and Ricky will STILL have ignorant Repug supporters...just like the slimey philandering Newt will still have his two-faced immoral Republican supporters who approved of adultery IF it's THEIR candidate....


Extremists are bad in any form but ignorant extremists like the Republicans are alarming.
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Old 12-29-2011, 07:28 AM
 
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Yes, they are extreme, women hating nutjobs..


BUT

at least they're more honest than the anti-choicers who say abortion is "killing a baby" but then flip flop and say it's OK in the case of rape, incest or if the mother's life is in danger.

If it's "killing a baby" in one instance it's STILL "killing a baby" in ALL instances.

An abortion is an abortion.

Santorums are anti-abortion in public and pro choice in private and Ricky will STILL have ignorant Repug supporters...just like the slimey philandering Newt will still have his two-faced immoral Republican supporters who approved of adultery IF it's THEIR candidate....


Extremists are bad in any form but ignorant extremists like the Republicans are alarming.
All abortions are not equal. A zygote or a 2 week old embryo is not comparable to an 8 month old fetus.

How are pro-lifers more honest when they claim to be about protecting life, but don't seem to care if the mother and fetus die by making abortion illegal?
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Old 12-29-2011, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Funny, Santorum's wife had an abortion.
I guess they can have one, but you can't.

There are 626,000 hits for Santorum abortion if you don't like this blog: Santorum: Our Abortion Was Different | Our Silver Blog
Feel free to research on your own.

In October, 1996, his wife Karen had a second trimester abortion. They don’t like to describe it that way. In his 2004 interview with Terry Gross, Santorum characterizes the fetus, who must be treated as an autonomous person, as a practically a gunslinging threat, whom the mother must murder in self-defense. Karen has had to justify her decision to save her own life by explaining that if she died her other children would have lost a mother.

Republican extremists in Congress and the statehouses propose to make abortion illegal even if it would save the mother’s life. Even the Santorums admit they would make that choice, while claiming that they didn’t.
you said it: extremists. The abortion laws will, most likely never be changed and for The Santorum situation: I am pro life, most of the time but agree with their decision. There are rare times when abortion is the only answer and if moms life is at stake, especially when there are other children involved, the choice is a simple one. For all those out there that are extremist on the right there are those on the left that are judgemental and love to preach their side as well. In our family, about 18 months ago we were faced with a similar situation. Our granddaughter who is 100% pro life had to make that decision, because of her little daughter she choose to abort. It was the hardest choice she has ever made.

Nita
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:20 AM
 
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All abortions are not equal. A zygote or a 2 week old embryo is not comparable to an 8 month old fetus.

How are pro-lifers more honest when they claim to be about protecting life, but don't seem to care if the mother and fetus die by making abortion illegal?
HEY! I don't believe all abortions are "equal" but the Anti-choicers HAVE to believe that or they're hypocrites.
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:22 AM
 
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you said it: extremists. The abortion laws will, most likely never be changed and for The Santorum situation: I am pro life, most of the time but agree with their decision. There are rare times when abortion is the only answer and if moms life is at stake, especially when there are other children involved, the choice is a simple one. For all those out there that are extremist on the right there are those on the left that are judgemental and love to preach their side as well. In our family, about 18 months ago we were faced with a similar situation. Our granddaughter who is 100% pro life had to make that decision, because of her little daughter she choose to abort. It was the hardest choice she has ever made.

Nita
You can't be "pro-life" (anti-choice) "most of the time".

You ,and your grandaughter, are pro-choice....
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:53 AM
 
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In our family, about 18 months ago we were faced with a similar situation. Our granddaughter who is 100% pro life had to make that decision, because of her little daughter she choose to abort. It was the hardest choice she has ever made.
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You can't be "pro-life" (anti-choice) "most of the time".

You ,and your grandaughter, are pro-choice....
I feel for you and your granddaughter, Nita. When my daughter was young, her friend's mother was faced with a similar situation. She had a condition that assured that if she carried the child to term, neither would survive. Being a strict Catholic, the mother refused to terminate the pregnancy. She and the baby died within hours of birth, leaving behind six other children ranging from 15 to 2 years of age. It was a stupid, pointless waste of life that left six children without a mother.

That said, Who?Me?! is absolutely right. If you agree with your granddaughter's decision, you are pro-choice. She had the choice, and she made it. And for the sake of her other child, it was the right one. But as someone who states that you are "mostly pro-life," I wonder how you would feel if that choice had not been there for her?

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Old 12-29-2011, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I feel for you and your granddaughter, Nita. When my daughter was young, her friend's mother was faced with a similar situation. She had a condition that assured that if she carried the child to term, neither would survive. Being a strict Catholic, the mother refused to terminate the pregnancy. She and the baby died within hours of birth, leaving behind six other children ranging from 15 to 2 years of age. It was a stupid, pointless waste of life that left six children without a mother.

That said, Who?Me?! is absolutely right. If you agree with your granddaughter's decision, you are pro-choice. She had the choice, and she made it. And for the sake of her other child, it was the right one. But as someone who states that you are "mostly pro-life," I wonder how you would feel if that choice had not been there for her?
Most people who are against abortion do support exceptions that would include situations such as these.

Most people who are pro-choice support abortion being illegal after a certain point in the pregnancy with exceptions when the life of the woman is at risk. I don't understand how one is hypocritical while the other is not.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:34 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Thumbs up Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, and Santorum Go Extreme on Abortion

So far, the GOP "campaign" has been very amusing. Watching this collection of back-bench pols and has-beens jockey for position as the angriest, most extreme nutjob is good midwinter entertainment.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Protecting human beings in the womb is not "extreme" as the pro-abortion butchers would like to spin it.
I've got a few questions for you:

1) Who is pro-abortion?
2) Who is a butcher?
3) Do you eat meat?
4) Do you believe in the death penalty?
5) Do you support public assistance for all who need it?
6) Do you support war of any kind?

I'd love to see the answers to these questions.
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