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Old 01-02-2012, 03:03 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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You've been running interference on iran's behalf for a long time now, you wouldn't happen to be on anyone's payroll, would you?
Are you?

Perhaps Some "needless wars of choice are good for the economy" contractor?
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:52 PM
 
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You've been running interference on iran's behalf for a long time now, you wouldn't happen to be on anyone's payroll, would you?
Yep. The Iranian regime has been sending me a couple of million a month.
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:25 PM
 
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Probably the same thing we did when North Korea tested a nuke and when Pakistan tested a nuke. You weigh the pros and cons of military action. So far, in the case of Iran, no administration (Republican or Democrat) have felt that the pros outweighed the cons.

It is stupid making this a left v right thing. The current administration has continued the policy of the previous one. Right now, nobody wants to go to war over this.
Is N Korea hegemonistic? No, so not such a big deal.

Is pakistan hegemonistic? Yes, but only with respect to its neighbors Afghanistan, which is what made that country so difficult for the US to bring to a peaceful situation, and India - remember Mumbai? Or any of the other massive terrorism from pakistan in india? I do.

Now imagine iran, with a regime whose sole existence is the export of terrorism, armed with 25-100 nukes.

No rational president or Western leader can allow iran to achieve nuclear weapons, none. It will lead to a far more devastating war down the road.
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Is N Korea hegemonistic? No, so not such a big deal.

Is pakistan hegemonistic? Yes, but only with respect to its neighbors Afghanistan, which is what made that country so difficult for the US to bring to a peaceful situation, and India - remember Mumbai? Or any of the other massive terrorism from pakistan in india? I do.

Now imagine iran, with a regime whose sole existence is the export of terrorism, armed with 25-100 nukes.

No rational president or Western leader can allow iran to achieve nuclear weapons, none. It will lead to a far more devastating war down the road.
I don't think anyone wants to see Iran obtain a Nuclear Weapon. The issue is whether we should be involved, risk US troops lives, go to War, etc to prevent them from doing so. Romney seems to want to go down that path of Military action in Iran.
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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And what will you do genius when iran tests a nuclear weapon
I'll uncork a bottle of sparkling grape juice.

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Did you like how they captured the 3 americans and the UK navymen?
I didn't like how they were sent into harm's way by their own government, but considering Iran is surrounded by a hostile alliance, they showed a hell of a lot of daring by doing that.

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Does anyone with a brain recognize how it would render the UN and its functioning mechanisms like the IAEA completely worthless were iran to achieve a nuke?
Well, it would be a failure of the IAEA, but completely worthless? The UN itself doesn't stop all wars but it's not therefore "completely worthless."

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"no more wars for Israel" - as if the US has ever fought even one, etc.
How many wars/interventions/invasions did we experience in the ME between 1815 and 1948?

How many since 1948?

We never had any real enemies in the ME for generations, until Truman screwed us all by supporting Israel.
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:26 PM
 
Location: NC
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Ya know, for all the indignation about Iran getting a nuke, in case you didn't know, we were the only nation in the world to use a nuke ...errr..twice.

Hiroshima (166,000 dead). Nagasaki (80,000 dead).

Just sayin'...
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:29 PM
 
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I don't think anyone wants to see Iran obtain a Nuclear Weapon. The issue is whether we should be involved, risk US troops lives, go to War, etc to prevent them from doing so. Romney seems to want to go down that path of Military action in Iran.
Its just campaign rhetoric. Chances are, if he ever gets elected, that he will do the same thing as his predecessors.
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:30 PM
 
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Is N Korea hegemonistic? No, so not such a big deal.

Is pakistan hegemonistic? Yes, but only with respect to its neighbors Afghanistan, which is what made that country so difficult for the US to bring to a peaceful situation, and India - remember Mumbai? Or any of the other massive terrorism from pakistan in india? I do.

Now imagine iran, with a regime whose sole existence is the export of terrorism, armed with 25-100 nukes.

No rational president or Western leader can allow iran to achieve nuclear weapons, none. It will lead to a far more devastating war down the road.
When was the last time Iran invaded another country?
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Its just campaign rhetoric. Chances are, if he ever gets elected, that he will do the same thing as his predecessors.
If Bush and Cheney had more time we would have likely invaded Iran, Cheney certainly was itching for it. It appears Mitt wants to do the same thing, yet again showing how extreme and far to the right he has become.
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