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Old 01-05-2012, 06:07 PM
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Are you ever shocked by the way that most of the electorate tends to display no real knowledge of the candidates, their policies, or the way the world truly works?

Do you ever become disheartened in the way the electorate tends to display a sheep-like mentality, particularly as it pertains to the political parties, with people never really looking at the candidate's views on the issues. Instead, it becomes more of a "let's win" mentality, or an "us-vs-them" mentality, one in which people become brainwashed into supporting one particular candidate simply because the party establishment tells them such and such is who they should support because "they have the best chance to beat the other side".

Does it bother you that people vote in elections who know nothing about the candidates other than perhaps a sound byte heard, or perhaps one stance on one issue?

Does it bother you that people vote for candidates on appearance, who's best looking, or who they feel looks "presidential" (Alpha male)?

Does it bother you that in this age of fast internet that people don't take the time to visit the candidate's web sites and look at their views on the issues?

Does it bother you that people don't think about the issues, or why someone may or may not have the opinion that you do on the issues. Often, there may be a very good reason?

Does it bother you that in today's era, the Democrat Party has become a quasi-Marxist party aimed at stirring up class warfare, while the Republican Party has become a war-mongering party, far from the views of a true conservative party. Does it bother you that people who call themselves a Democrat or a Republican/conservative start to take on the character of a socialist (for a Democrat), or a pro-war war-hawk, all because the party establishment says that such and such is what it means to be a liberal/Democrat or a conservative/Republican? Yet, people seem to not be able to think about why these may or may not be good ideas. They simply take it as they are, and then side with that view, almost religiously, refusing to accept anything other than who the party says is a true Democrat or a true Republican.

Those who follow this party-line because are so hard-headed and unable to really think about why they vote the way they do. They often don't challenge their point of view. For example, a warhawk Republican will simply assume that you're not patriotic unless you want war and to take out Iran or to get involved in the Middle East. They can't wrap their minds around the fact that getting involved runs counter to what our founding fathers advocated, as well as true constitutional principles, especially considering a congressional declaration of war never happened. They also don't seem to understand that all doing such does it "stir a hornet's nest", making us less safe in the long term, making others despise the United States more. They also can't seem to see how history doesn't support these moves. They don't seem to care that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction, how it was predicated on a lie, and now Iraq runs the risk of becoming an Islamic Republic, something many Republicans don't wish to happen. They don't seem to understand that using NATO forces in Lybia helped fuel a revolt that is now putting Islamic rule in Libya. Thus, in the end, this runs counter-active to the initial aims, and has actually made things worse for the U.S.

On the Democrat side, individuals can't seem to understand that using the taxpayer's money for social and economic issues eventually seeps capital from the private sector, which weakens economic growth and recovery, and will eventually result in a collapse of the government, given no change.

In today's climate, it seems that few even are willing to look at things logically. The party establishment system seems to take joy in people's ignorance, and they love to use the media to prop up their darlings, while they have no problem demeaning those who are true to America's Constitution and founding. It's as if the dumb are leading the masses, and they have no problem calling those with the most common sense "crazy". Like clockwork, the masses who do not care to think about anything eat it up.

With this said, how can anything change for the better? When you have evil corrupt people running the establishment and controlling what the ignorant believe, is there any chance the republic will turn back to what it was truly intended to be?
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Old 01-05-2012, 06:11 PM
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Old 01-05-2012, 06:18 PM
Location: NC
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Yes to all questions. This country has the biggest bunch of ignorant people I have ever seen. They are sheep, I mean literally, sheep.

I honestly think that a test of the Constitution should be conducted and passed before a person is allowed to vote. This test would be at the state level and hence won't be unconstitutional in itself (10th amendment rights).
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Old 01-05-2012, 06:29 PM
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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I've been preaching against the "sports fan" mentality of most proud members of our two major parties for awhile now.
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Old 01-05-2012, 06:52 PM
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Yes. Ron Paul got 21% of the vote in Iowa. Amazing.
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:09 PM
Location: New Hampshire
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And the uninformed people...

I went to Midas today to get an oil change. They had the TV on there...on NBC. They had Mitt Romney on the news and my boyfriend said he did not like Mitt Romney. The girl behind the counter said "Who is Mitt Romney?"

Like.........really now? Come on. You live in Massachusetts for God's sake!

What about the people who say they will vote for a certain candidate because he looks good? Or because his hair is cool? Or because of XYZ....Because of things that have nothing to do with being a president!

How Obama Got Elected... Interviews With Obama Voters - YouTube

My boyfriend showed me that video a couple weeks ago... Pretty damn funny.
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:53 PM
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I was surprised at how influential some of the anti-Bush conspiracy theories came to be, and how widespread BDS was. And I was not a Bush supporter. But in particular "Bush lied about WMD" was one of the dumbest memes ever, yet it really caught on. Karl Rove, Bush's so-called genius strategist, decided at some point that they would just ignore it and go onto other things. He later concluded that that had been a mistake (duh!).
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Stars&StripesForever View Post
Are you ever shocked by the way that most of the electorate tends to display no real knowledge of the candidates, their policies, or the way the world truly works?
nope. consider this, most people are barely able to operate a motor vehicle, mail a letter, etc. ask questions of most people, simple stuff like who was mondales running mate, or who was carters vp, or who was secretary of state during the clinton years. and chances are that most people you ask these questions of will have no idea what you are talking about. in fact far too many people think that pearl harbor was attacked by the japanese on july 4 1776, and that carrier jets were common during world war two.
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:43 PM
Location: Florida -
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The thing that never ceases to amaze me is how much sway people give to the media, even though overall media credibility is at an all time low. Similarly, while congressional approval levels rightfully hover between 10-15% ... almost 70% tend to get re-elected (go figure!) -These are the same elected representatives who, in spite of the fact that the country is in enormous financial trouble ... are so 'grid-locked' by partisanship and self-interest --- that nothing is getting done to address the issues!
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:14 PM
Location: Limbo
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Its scary is what it is. People don't think critically and weigh the issues. They just hear one guy is good and the other bad, and roll with it. There are things I like and dislike about all politicians, and I try to learn about their issues and stances. People hold too much faith in accurate 'news' from both sides of the political spectrum because all they do is force-feed moral issues which are of no consequence in the big picture.

Its just so sad that millions, if not tens of millions, or hundreds of millions, have been brainwashed to vote against their self-interest in such a manner (all politicians are crooks in my book) and accept the status quo which has so royally screwed them over.
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