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Sorry I just read your link and didn't see anything anti-choice in there. Maybe I missed something you specifically mean. It defined life at conception. What someone personally believes isn't as important as how they handle the laws regarding them. Abortion isn't an easy topic either, but I can't see that being the most important one either.
The Santity of Life Act as well as the We The People Act though likely unconstitutional themselves sought to strip federal protections of an individuals right to choose.
And no, I don't believe abortion is the most important issue, but I think Paul's view are important to consider. The point is that Ron Paul is not the champion of liberty as so many of his fans believe. He is just as, if not more conservative than many of the other Republican candidates and he has the legislative record to prove it. Paul doesn't believe in individual rights, he believes in State rights and the right of the states to pretty much do as they please in regards to restricting rights.
I'm also pro-decriminalization of drugs, and agree that that needs to happen at the federal level. But when pushed don't think Paul would be against Georgia, or some other state from instituting the death penalty for drug arrest if they so desired.
I'd also like to spend less on the military and bring our troops home, but that will never happen with a Paul White House and a Republican majority in Congress. The only thing you will see happen is a slashing of whats left of our social net and further restrictions on individual liberties.
I didn't see it as stripping "federal protection" just federal regulation. Still seemed to have plenty of rights to choose in there. Unfortunately, some things about abortion are just reality and go beyond "rights to choose".
Thinking that he believes state rights supercede individual rights is a serious extrapolation, I cannot agree with nor do I see evidence to support.
The Santity of Life Act as well as the We The People Act though likely unconstitutional themselves sought to strip federal protections of an individuals right to choose.
And no, I don't believe abortion is the most important issue, but I think Paul's view are important to consider. The point is that Ron Paul is not the champion of liberty as so many of his fans believe. He is just as, if not more conservative than many of the other Republican candidates and he has the legislative record to prove it. Paul doesn't believe in individual rights, he believes in State rights and the right of the states to pretty much do as they please in regards to restricting rights.
Absurd to say Ron Paul doesn't believe in individual rights. His voting record and policies prove you wrong. You confuse anti big government with local control as restricting rights. That's your misguided perception not Ron Pauls failing.
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I'm also pro-decriminalization of drugs, and agree that that needs to happen at the federal level. But when pushed don't think Paul would be against Georgia, or some other state from instituting the death penalty for drug arrest if they so desired.
He would be president and act accordingly to the Constitution. You remember the document all politicians are bound to uphold. Not like a king that has absolute power.
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I'd also like to spend less on the military and bring our troops home, but that will never happen with a Paul White House and a Republican majority in Congress.
The President controls troop movement and spending
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The only thing you will see happen is a slashing of whats left of our social net and further restrictions on individual liberties.
I'd like to see how you came to that conclusion. With a republican in the White House maybe the dems will get a backbone and actually be the party of anti war that some claim instead of sitting idly by while their democratic president gets our military personnel and our money in more countries.
"As a presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama told The Boston Globe in December 2007, “The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.” Paul introduced a resolution to use those exact words from Obama as the sense of the Senate. But on Tuesday, the Senate voted 90-10 to table the Paul motion.
“The Democrats all voted to table it, because they’re embarrassed by the president’s words and by his hypocrisy in going back on his words,” Paul said.
He believes that many Republicans and Democrats believe the president must seek congressional authority. But, he was also critical of some Republicans who believe presidential authority should not be balanced."
That's your misguided perception not Ron Pauls failing.
Sort of, but that doesn't really explain your position that women shouldn't be allowed to vote. This isn't the 1800s you know, I'm amazed that anyone still thinks that way.
Sort of, but that doesn't really explain your position that women shouldn't be allowed to vote. This isn't the 1800s you know, I'm amazed that anyone still thinks that way.
I'm taking bets on how many utterly moronic statements you can make in the next hour.
You know this nation is in trouble when being dogmatic to the US Constitution is seen as a BAD thing...
Is that all Ron Paul is...a interpreter of the Constitution?
You do realize that there are other issues that many people find Ron Paul's stance on just plain wrong...issues concerning race, homosexuality and religion, for instance.
There is also this tidbit which many find repulsive... Dr. Paul has said he is a great admirer of Ayn Rand
You know this nation is in trouble when being dogmatic to the US Constitution is seen as a BAD thing...
The lack of cognitive dissonance is astounding. Look at the subject of this thread, then re-read your post and see if you can draw the connection.
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