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Old 01-18-2012, 06:48 AM
 
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There is less than 400,000 union members in Wisc, do the math.
More than enough when they import signatures and sign multiple times.
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Old 01-18-2012, 06:54 AM
 
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You must have heard that from Walker...

Report: Walker Costing Wisconsin More than 18,000 Jobs a Year

“In tough times, the worst thing a governor can do is further shrink the economy by stifling spending,” explained Jack Norman, research director for the Institute for Wisconsin’s Future. “Gov. Walker has taken huge amounts of money out of the economy through budget cuts, attacks on workers and increased taxes on low-income families. This leads businesses to have fewer customers, workers to have fewer jobs and local governments to have less revenue.”

Report: Walker Costing Wisconsin More than 18,000 Jobs a Year | AFL-CIO NOW BLOG

Walker's budget cuts are costing state private jobs, report warns | Recall Scott Walker NOW!
So a good plan would be to continue spending money you don't have? Brilliant, and an indication of how dems would do if in office.

In tough times you make tough choices. That includes cutting costs, which means cutting jobs. We're making those tough choices in our homes, and our elected officials need to do the same.

As for the rest of your union-induced hysteria, didn't taxes just go down there?
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Old 01-18-2012, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Why, of course not. Unions/dems/libs can raise all the out of state money they want...perfectly fine.



4th time is the charm I guess. They've LOST every fight/election so far, the WI GOP under Walker has enacted virtually everything they wanted.
Counting the six fake democratic candidates the wingnuts put up in the primaries, the Wisconsin dems have done pretty well winning elections.

And two dems, Jessica King in the 18th and Rep. Jen Schilling in the 32nd, unseated wingnut incumbents Randy Hopper and Dan Kapanke, respectively.
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Old 01-18-2012, 07:18 AM
 
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Gee, someone would think you might be anti-Union...
unions used to serve a noble purpose...now it is all about GREED. The more the unions get for their mdembers...the more dues they collect...the more they can get involved in lobbying....the more they can influence congress....and gthe more the union money can be hijacked among the top guys. Look at jimmy Hoffa...corrupt as hell.

It isn't that I HATE unions...I HATE what they have become.
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Old 01-18-2012, 07:34 AM
 
Location: ITP
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unions used to serve a noble purpose...now it is all about GREED. The more the unions get for their mdembers...the more dues they collect...the more they can get involved in lobbying....the more they can influence congress....and gthe more the union money can be hijacked among the top guys. Look at jimmy Hoffa...corrupt as hell.

It isn't that I HATE unions...I HATE what they have become.
Are you talking about unions or corporations?
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Old 01-18-2012, 07:37 AM
 
Location: ITP
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I do wish people that dont even live in Wisconsin would stay out of our state politics.
You say this as your governor is currently out of state in New York raising money at an event hosted by the founder of AIG - one of the main players in the financial meltdown and recipient of billions of dollars in bailout money.
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Old 01-18-2012, 07:44 AM
 
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You must have heard that from Walker...

Report: Walker Costing Wisconsin More than 18,000 Jobs a Year

“In tough times, the worst thing a governor can do is further shrink the economy by stifling spending,” explained Jack Norman, research director for the Institute for Wisconsin’s Future. “Gov. Walker has taken huge amounts of money out of the economy through budget cuts, attacks on workers and increased taxes on low-income families. This leads businesses to have fewer customers, workers to have fewer jobs and local governments to have less revenue.”

Report: Walker Costing Wisconsin More than 18,000 Jobs a Year | AFL-CIO NOW BLOG

Walker's budget cuts are costing state private jobs, report warns | Recall Scott Walker NOW!
As if... “Gov. Walker has taken huge amounts of money out of the economy through budget cuts..."

Since when did the state government picking the pockets of their citizens, thru taxation, equate to adding to a state's economy?

When the state government takes money out of our pockets, they are taking money out of the economy!!! Where is it written that bureaucrats and politicians can better spend the profits and income of the people, then the people who earned it?

What gift is bestowed upon politicians and bureaucrats, or liberal think tanks, that makes them better able to create and maintain jobs, then the people actually running the businesses in the state? Electing a politician or appointing a bureaucrat does not endow them with decades of expertise in the thousands of diverse businesses in sales, service, construction, maintenance and manufacturing.

Asking teachers to pay a small portion of money into their pensions and health insurance plans does not diminish the state's economy. Everyone in the private sector pays into their pensions and insurance plans, and that apparently is not harming the local economy.
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Old 01-18-2012, 07:48 AM
 
Location: NC
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Good to see.
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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I hear Walker is flying all over the country, outside Wisconsin, to raise millions to fight a political campaign to save his governorship. I also hear there may be a backlash against all this out-of-state fundraising he is doing.
That is right. Check this out!


Gov. Scott Walker gets checked, Mic Checked! - YouTube
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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so far walker has cut property taxes, eliminated the deficit in WI and created a surplus. yeah i think the silent majority in WI is likely going to vote to keep walker in place, especially since the previous democrat administrations ran up the deficits, and raised taxes.
Walker did raise taxes in WI for the working class.

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In May 2011, we rated this as a Promise Broken, based on Walker’s own 2011-2013 budget proposal, which raised two taxes.
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Walker’s budget proposal reduced the earned income credit for low-income working families that have more than one child. Since a tax credit reduces the amount of tax you owe, reducing the earned income credit means higher taxes for those families, or a smaller refund if the families owe no tax.
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The homestead credit is a property tax break that appears as a credit on income tax forms for low-income homeowners and renters. Walker’s budget proposal stopped the inflationary adjustment of this credit. So that means those taxpayers pay more in taxes.
PolitiFact | Inside the Walker tax debate: Was budget an increase or a cut?

All of you right wing, working, middle class! When did you become so brainwashed to believe tax breaks for the wealthy at your expense is what you want?
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