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Polls and petitions don't mean a lot. Because someone signs a petition does NOT mean they will even vote. A lot of people from my understanding were harrassed into signing. Do you REALLY think they will also be harrasssed to get up off the couch and vote? The likelyhood of even 40% of them actually showing up at the poles is remote at best.
LOL. Well, I would say that at least a million of them do. I well remember your many predictions during the 2008 election that there was no way Obama would win. I will check back with you after the recall election to make sure you are batting 1000% with your predictive powers.
What's the population of your state? Registered voters?
Do you think those signatures from out of town union members or ineligible college students will count?
I don't know about the local, state office and below, elections history, but for presidential elections, Wisconsin has been pretty solidly blue (7 out of 10) for the past ten elections.
As a state ,the population continues to decline, which means their electoral influence will continue to decline, so it might be a moot point as to which way the state leans in the out years.
The shrinking unemployment must be all due to the federal government's efforts. “Minnesota's unemployment rate slipped to 5.7 percent in December, down from 5.9 percent in November, as state employers added 7,900 jobs, officials said this morning."
The unions can decry workers rights, but this really is a case of nimby, or even not wanting to pay their fair share. "Protests erupted over the Governor's budget bill that would require state employees to contribute 5.8% of their salary toward their pensions, and also pay 12.6% of their health insurance premiums."
The financial industry has standard for adequate retirement savings of around 10% of one's gross pay. So, even 6%~ falls 40% short of adequacy. Don't these people want to take personal responsibility for their wellbeing?
And less than 13% of the health premium costs? My goodness, that is a very good deal. That is about half what most folks pay.
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Over 900,000 signatures is more than enough to take care of all challenges to the recall petitions. 450,00 was the minimum requirement for the recall. The recall movement could have stopped at 650,000, and would have had enough to handle the challenges at that figure.
Walker will face a recall election, period. The big question is if he will be able to overcome his opposition to keep his job. I don't know of any Democratic contender yet, but I'm sure there is someone out there, who has waited until the petition movement succeeded.
It is also possible that Walker could face a Republican contender if he does not resign. If he wins all he will get is the last 2 years of his term, as would a contender who wins. There will be another Gubernatorial election in 2014.
I don't know what the laws are in Wisconsin, but if Walker resigns before he is recalled, the Republican party may be allowed to appoint his successor to fill the rest of his term. This is the way it's done in several states.
Given that there are also several recalls being petitioned on other Wisconsin repubs who have sponsored Walker's bills, some of which have already reached their goal numbers, it's possible that the state RCC may put the bite on Walker to resign for the good of the party.
Wisconsin could turn solid blue this year as a result of Walker's policies; all it would take to kick out the repubs that were voted in in 2010 is a turnout as large as 2008's, and that is a very likely possibility for this year. Walker's most prominent supporters were already recalled, but 2 escaped the first recall. Both have second efforts against them now.
The don't call Wisconsin the Badger State for nothing. Those folks, when aroused, do not quit on either side.
Unemployment rates are not right or left wing propaganda, though both parties have changed the formula for calculating unemployment over the years. Wisconsin's overall unemployment rate sat at around 5.%~ in December. Nationally, it was 8.5%~. You must live in a pocket of high unemployment. Turmoil is a subjective term.
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Good, nothing has been done about the budget, our school system is in turmoil, despite what right wing propaganda tells you, and our state is losing jobs. Get this moron out.
Child, if your facts are right and your arguments are solid, then there is no need for the sophmoric name calling. The argument can stand on its on two feet. Really now?
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Good comeback, despite our lose of private sector jobs under Walker rightnuts still seem to spit the same rhetoric.
Unemployment rates are not right or left wing propaganda, though both parties have changed the formula for calculating unemployment over the years. Wisconsin's overall unemployment rate sat at around 5.%~ in December. Nationally, it was 8.5%~. You must live in a pocket of high unemployment. Turmoil is a subjective term.
No sure what point you're trying to make, but for the record the Wisconsin unemployment rate was over 7% in December.
The unions can decry workers rights, but this really is a case of nimby, or even not wanting to pay their fair share. "Protests erupted over the Governor's budget bill that would require state employees to contribute 5.8% of their salary toward their pensions, and also pay 12.6% of their health insurance premiums."
The financial industry has standard for adequate retirement savings of around 10% of one's gross pay. So, even 6%~ falls 40% short of adequacy. Don't these people want to take personal responsibility for their wellbeing?
And less than 13% of the health premium costs? My goodness, that is a very good deal. That is about half what most folks pay.
You're conveniently leaving out the fact that the public employee unions agreed to these concessions before Walker decided to limit their collective bargaining rights. Limiting their collective bargaining rights had nothing to do with balancing the budget and everything to do with disenfranchising a block of voters who mostly vote Democrat.
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