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What "self-deportation" means is illegal aliens leaving the US because they can't work here. It would involve penalizing anyone employing illegal aliens so that people stop hiring illegals and let any employees who are illegals go.
What's so crazy about that?
That happens today...His "plan" is not a plan. It addresses nothing. You think businesses are going to self-report hiring illegals? LOL..You think illegals are going to leave on their own instead of just getting another job?This is just Mitt being Mittens. Lame.
That happens today...His "plan" is not a plan. It addresses nothing. You think businesses are going to self-report hiring illegals? LOL..You think illegals are going to leave on their own instead of just getting another job?This is just Mitt being Mittens. Lame.
It doesn't happen often enough today.
The idea would be to increase enforcement so they can't just go get another job. (As an aside, don't you think it's a problem that so many Americans can't find jobs in this economy yet illegals are able to so easily?)
Of course businesses wouldn't self-report hiring illegals. Obviously businesses that are suspected of hiring illegals would have to be investigated.
Do you have a better idea? Amnesty would only encourage more illegal immigration.
I know you hate Mitt Romney, and that's fine. But many other Democrats don't. That was what I was saying earlier.
A lot of people are upset with Obama. You've said "the economy is surging" multiple times on this forum. Clearly that's not a view shared by the vast majority of Americans, regardless of some recent slight improvements in unemployment. Some people who were Obama supporters in 2008 who are upset with him now are liberals who wish he was more liberal, but many are moderates who were disgusted with Republicans and feel Obama is too liberal. They are sick of all the spending and lack of real economic improvement.
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Newt Gingrich has been not held an elected political office in over THIRTEEN YEARS. Would you hire a guy who has been out of work for thirteen years? Would you promote a guy from VP to CEO who has not been a VP in over thirteen years? The presidency is a promotion not a demotion or an entry level position.
Newt is probably the least deserving candidate out of this criteria alone. He hasn't done much during the period he was out of political office. I am not sure why conservatives want this 90s retread but that should show you how bad and desperate the Republican Party is. People may bash Obama for being inexperienced but at least he held a political office when he was running for President. The Republican candidates just aren't what they used to be. At least Bush was still a governor when he was running for office.
Let me repeat myself again, this guy is a RETREAD who has been out of work for over 13 years. All the "positions" he held since he left office were in awful self serving businesses that he created. He won't know how to deal with Congress or the rest of the Executive branch since he has been out of politics for such a long time. The 90s way of doing things just won't cut it.
The idea would be to increase enforcement so they can't just go get another job.
Of course businesses wouldn't self-report hiring illegals. Obviously businesses that are suspected of hiring illegals would have to be investigated.
Do you have a better idea?
Really, and where did Mittens lay out this plan. All he said was, self-report. He babbled something about a magic work card that's suppose to be invalid which will magically make illegals leave on their own when they're here illegally working illegally. Mitt's plan is ridiculous. It's not even ridiculous because it's not even a plan.
No, I'm not running for President but I do know a non-answer when I see one just like the "I disagree with my dad on releasing taxes because ________"? Or the "I'll keep NASA going by having people talk"? What?
It's been reported by NBC that Mitt's 2010 returns will show that he invested millions in Fannie/Freddie but he choose to knock Newt on that tonight. No wonder he's releasing them tommorrow after the debate. The guy is full on slime.
I don't hate Mitt, he's just an empty suit/generic candidate. Most conservatives dislike him..LOL. Even on this board, he only has about 3 active supporters.
Really, and where did Mittens lay out this plan. All he said was, self-report. He babbled something about a magic work card that's suppose to be invalid which will magically make illegals leave on their own when they're here illegally working illegally. Mitt's plan is ridiculous. It's not even ridiculous because it's not even a plan.
He never said that all employers would self-report illegals working for them. It's obvious that some employers would have to be investigated.
As far as the work card, his plan is to issue a work card to non-citizens that would be required for to be hired. That makes sense. If they don't have a card, they couldn't be employed. If someone did hire them, they'd be subject to penalties.
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No, I'm not running for President but I do know a non-answer when I see one just like the "I disagree with my dad on releasing taxes because ________"? Or the "I'll keep NASA going by having people talk"? What?
He was suggesting collaboration between the public sector and private sector, rather than having the government completely run it. That's a good idea IMO.
Does he have to have a specific, extremely detailed plan for every relatively minor issue? Most Americans are concerned about the economy and jobs. What happens to NASA isn't something that's front and center on most people's minds.
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I don't hate Mitt, he's just an empty suit/generic candidate. Most conservatives dislike him..LOL. Even on this board, he only has about 3 active supporters.
Many moderates like him. Obviously, people on the right wing don't like him because he is a right-leaning centrist, not a right-winger. He has more than three active supporters on this board. There are a lot of people here who view him as the best option among poor options.
I won't respond to further posts about Romney on this thread. This thread is about Newt. If you (or anyone else) wants to pick on Romney, there are plenty of other threads for that.
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I am surprised few people mention this but Newt never ever won a statewide election. Winning a gerrymandered congressional district does not make a congressman electable in any way, shape, or form. GA District 6 only has a population of 700K in 2010, how exactly is that in any way representative of America or the state as a whole? His competition in GA District 6 was more or less a token competition and the Democrats never posed a threat to him. This guy has been living in a bubble throughout his entire political career and he really won't know what hit him.
I am surprised few people mention this but Newt never ever won a statewide election. Winning a gerrymandered congressional district does not make a congressman electable in any way, shape, or form. GA District 6 only has a population of 700K in 2010, how exactly is that in any way representative of America or the state as a whole? His competition in GA District 6 was more or less a token competition and the Democrats never posed a threat to him. This guy has been living in a bubble throughout his entire political career and he really won't know what hit him.
Yeah that's what makes the whole thing so hilarious. He's the product of a rigged district, like Bachmann and Paul. There's no way he can appeal to a nationwide electorate, yet somehow in today's Republican party he's a credible nominee. Granted it's also due to the rest of the field being an even bigger joke, but that only reinforces the sad state they find themselves in.
Yeah that's what makes the whole thing so hilarious. He's the product of a rigged district, like Bachmann and Paul. There's no way he can appeal to a nationwide electorate, yet somehow in today's Republican party he's a credible nominee. Granted it's also due to the rest of the field being an even bigger joke, but that only reinforces the sad state they find themselves in.
I don't know about Bachmann, but I do know about Paul. If you think his district has been rigged to KEEP him, you don't know the Texas Republican Party. Ron Paul has been a thorn in their side for 30 years, they'd LOVE to gerrymander him out, but the good PEOPLE keep re-electing him.
That's the thing about partisan shills, your knowledge is wide, but not deep enough to splash in.
I am surprised few people mention this but Newt never ever won a statewide election. Winning a gerrymandered congressional district does not make a congressman electable in any way, shape, or form. GA District 6 only has a population of 700K in 2010, how exactly is that in any way representative of America or the state as a whole? His competition in GA District 6 was more or less a token competition and the Democrats never posed a threat to him. This guy has been living in a bubble throughout his entire political career and he really won't know what hit him.
District 6 was never "gerrymandered". It comprises the northern suburbs of Atlanta, and it's a staunchly conservative region. In fact, during Gingrich's tenure, district 6 was re-configured. It's been reconfigured again.
I don't like Gingrich, and I'm as conservative as they come. However, let's tell the truth. District 6 is one of the more populated districts of the state.
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