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You are doing exactly what newt does. When confronted with damaging facts you lash out at the accuser trying to drag them down into the mud along with you.
Fact; your response didn't address the claims of wrong doing or the $300k fine and admission newt made.
There are plenty of bash the liberal dems threads if you feel that need, but bashing them here on unrelated matters is simply deflection.
Yawn! You were probably still in diapers at the time, so what do you know?
Huh??? Who has said we didn't need government? The Constitution itself lays out the reason for establishing the Federal Government. "... to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare (read "well being", not handouts and bailouts),and secure the blessings of liberty, to ourselves and our posterity..."
Nobody I know of is speaking of "undoing the masterful work of our Founding Fathers" except for one man and one Party, Barack Obama and the Democrat(Progressive) Party. Obama himself said he was going to "fundamentally transform the United States of America." Were you listening? What did you think he meant?
You're railing against Republicans is misplaced. It is the Democrat Party that has gotten us into the mess we have been in for the last three years, and it was caused by the CRA (Jimmy Carter and expanded under Bill Clinton), and scoundrels like Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Barack Obama, and others who reaped millions from Fanney Mae and Freddie Mac.
Then, they gave us ObamaCare, against the will of the people. Without even reading the bill, they jambed that albatross down our throats.
Sorry, but your "facts" are all wrong. You are just the average Bush/Reagan hater, with nothing to back up your arguments. Reagan gave us 96 straight months of economic growth, a fact which cannot be disputed.
The rest of your post is sheer drivel.
More opinions couched as fact. Partisan indeed, in response to partisan nonsense. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Everyone knows President Obama's policies and beliefs; people are still waiting to see or hear what the GOP platform might be, once it's decided which flavor of the month will be the nominee. Pandering to the Cuban exile community isn't much to run on. Drivel? LOL! At least I have the example of history on which to draw, as opposed to the same, sorry "All Democrats are evil and the government is the enemy" bologna.
Look; I know the story, and I wasn't born yesterday either. I'm not stupid.
I don't know what world you are living in, but it isn't the real world.
The Democrats in this country will do anything (legal or illegal) to destroy a conservative. That is who they are. They have a track record for this that goes back decades.
I don't buy for one minute that Newt was deserving of what they did to him. I have the examples of what they have been doing for the last ten years, when they have stepped up their efforts do destroy the lives of others.
They have even stooped so low as to call our military men, "murderers".
The Democrat Party is nothing short of despicable. They are a disgusting bunch of human debris. There isn't one good one that is currently in office. They have no love for this country.
To hear you tell it, Newt is the most corrupt man that ever served in the Congress. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Newt should be given a medal for what he accomplished while in office, and I stand with those who cheered his response to the shabby treatment he has been putting up with by stupid people like John King and others, in these debates, when we should be discussing how to restore America from the destruction wreaked upon us by the Democrat contolled Congress, and their beloved Marxist, usurper, so-called "President" who hates this country and our Constitution. The man should be charged with treason and imprisoned for the rest of his sorry life.
Then you have proof that the rest of us don't? Link, please.
1) A Congressional vote is NOT a problem with the IRS, its a public perception issue
2) He did NOT admit to the violations, he admitting to it taking place, which the IRS said was fully legal.
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Then you have proof that the rest of us don't? Link, please.
You are doing exactly what newt does. When confronted with damaging facts you lash out at the accuser trying to drag them down into the mud along with you.
Fact; your response didn't address the claims of wrong doing or the $300k fine and admission newt made.
There are plenty of bash the liberal dems threads if you feel that need, but bashing them here on unrelated matters is simply deflection.
Claims of wrong doing doesnt equate to wrong doing.
Claims of wrong doing doesnt equate to wrong doing.
Remember, to the leftists, it's the "seriousness of the charge" that matters. That's basically so they can investigate anyone for anything they want to, just by making a charge.
The poster I responded to, Art123, stated flatly that Newt had not been exonerated (by the IRS), which he had. He implied I was stupid and ignorant of the facts. He obviously is not familiar with the story, and didn't bother to read up on it. Byron York is a highly credible columnist and political correspondent, who is intimately familiar with the background of this story, and has written extensively on it during the time Newt was in office.
As for my comments about Democrats, they are not just "feelings", they are based on fact. Democrats and ACORN, for example, have been working together for many years to "steal" elections by means of voter fraud, and we have the example of the "Florida recount" fiasco (repeated many times over in many states). Their history of election fraud and corruption is well known, and it is well documented. Even Barack Obama worked for ACORN as a "community organizer" engaged in these activities.
The track record Democrats have for destroying their political enemies is also well documented. In Alaska, we even had Democrat operatives pawing through trash bins looking for dirt on Sarah Palin. They smeared her entire family relentlessly, and still do to this day, with filthy lies. This is how they operate. Are you going to sit there and tell me that this is just assumption and opinion?
Nancy Pelosi, the Queen of hatred and venom (along with King Harry in the Senate) has threatened to publicly expose what she claims to know about Newt (whether fact or fiction) in order to make sure he has no chance of becoming President. Her statements to this effect have been aired publicly more than once. She herself should be brought up on ethics charges, and removed from office.
John Murtha, the late Senator from Pennsylvania, did indeed accuse our troops of being murderers. Again, a fact, not an opinion.
Finally (since you brought this up), Rush Limbaugh and others are conservatives who believe this county's greatness stems from individualism, not, as Obama just claimed, from "team work" or collectiveism. They do not "spew hatred". They expose the corruption, fraud and deceit, that has putrified the Democrat Party for at least the last half century.
In the mainstream media today, conservative ideas are seldom given voice, thus the popularity of people like Rush Limbaugh. This isn't pandering. It is the clear presentation and articulation of the alternative to the socialist propaganda that we are bombarded with daily from nearly all other sources.
And Newt has been standing up to this daily dish of socialist bull crap in these debates, as well as to the personal attacks he has had to put up with.
Those of us who are weary of the liberal nonsense we have been fed to for the past several decades, are understandably and rightfully roused and motivated by it. It is about time someone in politics speaks forthrightly for what we, and the majority of Americans (some 60%, according to polling data) believe. Thus, the standing "O's" Newt has been receiving.
Lastly, we conservatives (and Newt) do have ideas for creating jobs and improving education. Government is not the source of our wellbeing, nor has government improved education (or anything else). Government is an impedement.
It is and always has been the private sector that creates jobs. Obama's policies have been choking off the mechanism by which growth in business takes place. It begins with capital investment. But when the government robs the individual of investment capital through excessive taxation, it is only natural to expect that less growth will take place, and fewer jobs will be created.
I rest my case.
Don't you just love statements like this, " If the GOP and Newt in particular had any plans to create jobs, bolster the economy, improve education and help to dispell the venom of partisan politics it might be different."
They purposefully ignore ALL the bills the House has passed that dirty harry refuses to act on then try to say the repubs have no plans.
Please give us the details of the action in which he paid the fine.
I don't you really know.
He paid the $300,000 to keep the details secret. Nancy Pelosi says she's read the details, but they've never been totally made public.
What was made public, and what Gingrich himself admitted to, was lying to the ethics committee. Ironically, the same thing Clinton was impeached for: lying.
I already posted several contemporaneous news story on this thread. You can read more on those links.
You are doing exactly what newt does. When confronted with damaging facts you lash out at the accuser trying to drag them down into the mud along with you.
Fact; your response didn't address the claims of wrong doing or the $300k fine and admission newt made.
There are plenty of bash the liberal dems threads if you feel that need, but bashing them here on unrelated matters is simply deflection.
Simple question. Do you think the repubs would have voted the same way IF they had known the IRS was going to exonerate him?
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Yawn! You were probably still in diapers at the time, so what do you know?
