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Old 02-01-2012, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Riverside
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SUPER super Pacs:

Super PACs helping Republican candidates close in on Obama - The Washington Post

"A cluster of groups with virtually unlimited funds" is helping the GOP in the War against Obama.

NOW the GOP strategy behind the Citizens United decision and the all their anti-union legislation is clear: open the floodgates for traditional GOP doners (the Corporate Filthy Rich), and shut off the taps of traditional Dem doners (America's Working Class)
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Old 02-01-2012, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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It's a conspiracy, man!
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Old 02-01-2012, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Never fear...

Just yesterday I sent a contribution to the DNC.
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Old 02-01-2012, 08:32 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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SUPER super Pacs:

Super PACs helping Republican candidates close in on Obama - The Washington Post

"A cluster of groups with virtually unlimited funds" is helping the GOP in the War against Obama.

NOW the significance of the two-pronged GOP attack is clear: Citizens United via the conservative SCOTUS (open the floodgates for traditional GOP doners), and the War against the Unions in the Red-controlled states (shut off the taps of traditional Dem doners)
Good observations.

The attacks on public employee unions and the right-to-work efforts in some states have one purpose. Only one. Dismantle labor's support of the Democratic Party. A very smart strategy. In the long run, though, it'll result in a blow to the middle-class and judged as an attack on American (as in USA) values.
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Old 02-01-2012, 08:35 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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It's a conspiracy, man!

Led apparently by a Mittwit
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Old 02-01-2012, 08:36 AM
 
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It's a conspiracy, man!
It's not so much a conspiracy as it is obvious. One purpose of anti-union efforts was not to help the average Joe get a non-union job, or to help business owners with costs, it was to diminish the fund-raising capabilities of a group that's traditionally Democratic.

It goes hand-in-hand with efforts to disenfranchise Democratic voters with new voting requirements. The GOP path to victory when they don't have overwhelming numbers of people on their side is to diminish the numbers and capabilities of the other side.
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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It's not so much a conspiracy as it is obvious. One purpose of anti-union efforts was not to help the average Joe get a non-union job, or to help business owners with costs, it was to diminish the fund-raising capabilities of a group that's traditionally Democratic.

It goes hand-in-hand with efforts to disenfranchise Democratic voters with new voting requirements. The GOP path to victory when they don't have overwhelming numbers of people on their side is to diminish the numbers and capabilities of the other side.
It was stupid move on the part of the the GOP. Comes across as attacking the working class' only line of defense against exploitation.

But by being so blindly loyal to the Democratic Party and pouring a lot of money coming from union dues into funding Democrats, the unions have effectively painted a target on their chest. Sure the Dems are usually looking out for the best interests of the unions, but when the GOP is looking to be more on their side than the Dems are, they still throw all their support to the Democrats. Seems that the logical thing to do is for unions to be non-partisan and let the two parties compete for their support rather than automatically favoring one side no matter what.

Unions have become problematic as well. All too often they wage war against common sense. Case in point, here in Illinois, the pipelayers union wanted to ensure they'd continue to have work, so they pressured the Illinois government to pass into law that only copper piping could be used for all pipes water runs through. Trouble with that is that CPVC piping is better in every conceivable way. The union doesn't care, they only want to make sure that easy to install pipe is illegal. Teachers unions are just one example of standing in the way of firing people that actually need to get fired because they are beyond awful at their job. Many unions are guilty of the same thing. Unions can become part of the solution to such matters -- some do -- but many just stubbornly refuse to change.

As to the OP, it's true that there is some big money contributors on the GOP side. It should be noted that many of those contributors throw money at both sides ostensibly so that no matter who the winner is, that winner owes them one. Goldman Sachs is a perfect example of this. The Democrats are currently beholden to the many of the same big money special interest entities as Republicans. All elected officials owe them one with very few exceptions.
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:58 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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the funny thing is, my father is a union member in PA (IBEW)...many of his coworkers hate Obama. it's an interesting group of people he works with.
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Old 02-01-2012, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Reality
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This wouldn't be quite as funny if Obama didn't receive more support and money from Wall Street than any political candidate in history. You don't think Obama's campaign isn't going to get hundreds of millions of dollars in help from PACs? Moveon.org? MediaMatters? Are you liberal fools really this blind?
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Old 02-01-2012, 10:17 AM
 
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the funny thing is, my father is a union member in PA (IBEW)...many of his coworkers hate Obama. it's an interesting group of people he works with.
Thats because he is black. Its weird, for these people, hatred of black people trumps their own economic well being and survival.
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