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Old 02-07-2012, 11:55 AM
 
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In other words, you don't care how he wins or who he is indebted to should he win again.

Nice. Have you ever thought that the problem with American politics might be people like you?
LOL. Your double standard here is hysterical. The GOP should get as much money as possible through super PACs, but if Democrats avail themselves of the same financing, well, THAT'S just dirty politics. I hate the Citizens United ruling, but if it is now the law, and the other side is going to make full use of it, it's just smart politics to fight fire with fire.

Get off your high horse. You don't have a leg to stand on here.
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:58 AM
 
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Give me a break. Obama is on course to raise a BILLION dollars for his campaign, he's not some little innocent kid getting bullied by anyone. Democrats have built their entire party on the concept of people playing by different sets of rules.
Indeed, just look at the violent rhetoric being used by Obama's camp via David Axelrod:

Axelrod Backs Obama Over Super PACs: "Array Of Guns Pointed At Us" | RealClearPolitics
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:04 PM
 
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Why lie in the thread title?

Obama does not support Citizens United. However, he's also not oblivious to reality and has to work within the law as it currently exists.
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Obama has been pretty clear in his opposition to Super Pacs to the extent of taking a jab at the court in last year's state of the union over their politically motivated activism on behalf of rich Republicans. His hands are clean on the issue, but pac's are the reality of this election and he should make use of them in defense.
I agree with the above. GOP wants to have their cake and eat it too, which is ridiculous. They want to use a system while bashing the President for using the same system.

President Obama has voiced his opposition to super PACs, but he's under no obligation to hamstring his campaign as long as the PAC's are legal. As robbobobbo said...

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I would prefer he win and then work towards campaign finance reform, than someone else win who will 1) take the money and 2) not work towards campaign finance reform.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:25 PM
 
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LOL. Your double standard here is hysterical. The GOP should get as much money as possible through super PACs, but if Democrats avail themselves of the same financing, well, THAT'S just dirty politics. I hate the Citizens United ruling, but if it is now the law, and the other side is going to make full use of it, it's just smart politics to fight fire with fire.

Get off your high horse. You don't have a leg to stand on here.
I'm not the one whining about Citizens United. Obama and his minions are. Yet, they use it to feather their own nest and maintain power.

The only double standard here is the one YOU and the filthy Democrats are applying.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:31 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Here's a great site regarding Super PACs and their spending:

Consider the Source: Candidates and super PACs | iWatch News by The Center for Public Integrity (http://www.iwatchnews.org/2012/01/30/8031/consider-source-candidates-and-super-pacs - broken link)
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:42 PM
 
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I'm not the one whining about Citizens United. Obama and his minions are. Yet, they use it to feather their own nest and maintain power.

The only double standard here is the one YOU and the filthy Democrats are applying.
The Democrats have to play on the same field as the Republicans. You're just pissed because they have decided to play by the same rules. You were hoping that only the Republicans would "feather their own nest to maintain power"?

"At a private three-day retreat in California last weekend, conservative billionaires Charles and David Koch and about 250 to 300 other individuals pledged approximately $100 million to defeat President Obama in the 2012 elections."

Conservative Refocus Salutes: Koch Brothers Arrange Pledge Of $ 100 Million To Defeat Obama

Your side created the rules. Don't whine when your opponents use them against you.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:45 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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The Democrats have to play on the same field as the Republicans. You're just pissed because they have decided to play by the same rules. You were hoping that only the Republicans would "feather their own nest to maintain power"?

"At a private three-day retreat in California last weekend, conservative billionaires Charles and David Koch and about 250 to 300 other individuals pledged approximately $100 million to defeat President Obama in the 2012 elections."

Conservative Refocus Salutes: Koch Brothers Arrange Pledge Of $ 100 Million To Defeat Obama

Your side created the rules. Don't whine when your opponents use them against you.
Why do these NAZI brothers always have these secret meetings?
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:45 PM
 
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The Democrats have to play on the same field as the Republicans. You're just pissed because they have decided to play by the same rules. You were hoping that only the Republicans would "feather their own nest to maintain power"?

"At a private three-day retreat in California last weekend, conservative billionaires Charles and David Koch and about 250 to 300 other individuals pledged approximately $100 million to defeat President Obama in the 2012 elections."

Conservative Refocus Salutes: Koch Brothers Arrange Pledge Of $ 100 Million To Defeat Obama

Your side created the rules. Don't whine when your opponents use them against you.
Oh, no, not the KOCH BROTHERS!!!

Pathetic response.

Obama is a lying, POS hypocrite, just like the rest of the corrupt career politicians running the Democrat party.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:53 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Everytime. Can never stop with this kind of stuff when talking about Obama.
Yup. I caught that, too.

Now comes the feigned ignorance - "What? I can't use the word 'goon' when talking about our black president? Why? Why? Why?"

Anyway, I find it funny that President Obama changes position on one thing and he's being called a "flip flopper?" LMFAO

Although I understand the reasoning behind President Obama's decision, I am a little disappointed that he felt it necessary to go this route.

Oh, well. Maybe this is one case where the ends justifies the means. With President Obama's re-election, we can continue to work at getting Citizens United overturned. The future make up of the Supreme Court will have a lot to do with that and we have to have a Democratic president filling seats that are likely to come open in the next couple of years for that to happen.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:55 PM
 
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Oh, no, not the KOCH BROTHERS!!!

Pathetic response.

Obama is a lying, POS hypocrite, just like the rest of the corrupt career politicians running the Democrat party.
So just to be clear, you are absolutely fine with Romney getting a hundred million dollars of super PAC money, but you strenuously object to Obama availing himself of that same source of funding? Were you under the impression that Citizens United only applied to Republicans?
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