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Old 02-11-2012, 02:45 PM
 
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Mitt Romney won The Washington Times/CPAC Presidential Straw Poll on Saturday, and also nipped Rick Santorum as the top choice of conservatives nationwide, according to a new version of the poll conducted for the first time this year that suggests Mr. Romney retains strong support among self-identified conservatives.
Mr. Romney won 38 percent of the straw poll, which counted the votes of 3,408 activists gathered for the Conservative Political Action Conference, which ran from Thursday through Saturday at a hotel in Washington.
Mr. Santorum was second with 31 percent, Newt Gingrich was third with 15 percent and Rep. Ron Paul was fourth with 12 percent — far below his showing the last two years, when he won with 31 in 2010 and 30 percent in 2011
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Old 02-11-2012, 02:52 PM
 
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That makes it official- "conservatism" is now defined as "Screw integrity and intellectual consistancy- just get Obama at any cost"
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Old 02-11-2012, 02:55 PM
 
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Way too funny! He won in Wing Nut Heaven and the Moonies Paradise. Now if he can win the hold nose vote in Maine ....
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Old 02-11-2012, 03:05 PM
 
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Guess he is more conservative than the media likes to say he is.
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Old 02-11-2012, 03:13 PM
 
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Looks like a large group of conservatives there were trying to push Santorum. If they want Santorum to lead their party it would be hard to imagine the party existence well into the future.
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Old 02-11-2012, 03:41 PM
 
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Guess he is more conservative than the media likes to say he is.
He won it in 2008, too, and we all know where he wound up at the end of that election cycle.
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Old 02-11-2012, 03:56 PM
 
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By the way, is Newt intentionally tanking so as to not actually having to debate Obama? Hmmmm...
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Old 02-11-2012, 04:09 PM
 
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Guess he is more conservative than the media likes to say he is.
I think it's more complicated than that.

Have you read Romney's biography? He strikes me as the kind of guy who grew up in a conservative environment, but didn't give the issues a lot of thought, until he had to- when he decided to run for Kennedy's seat in '94. There, he had to appeal to moderates and liberals to have a chance, so he adopted moderate and liberal positions, on abortion, gays, guns, etc.

To Romney's way of thinking, getting elected is just a PROBLEM to be solved. If the solution to the problem involves changing his positions on the issues, so be it. Furthermore, Romney does not get why anyone sees a problem with this.

What does Romney REALLY think? What are his "core values"? In Romney's world, the question is meaningless.

And that's why he's struggling- nobody really trusts him. How can they? If someone asks you,"What do you believe?"' the answer CAN'T be "It depends".
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Old 02-11-2012, 04:11 PM
 
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who cares about some straw poll. last 2 national polls have santorum in a dead heat with romney.
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Old 02-11-2012, 04:13 PM
 
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I think it's more complicated than that.

Have you read Romney's biography? He strikes me as the kind of guy who grew up in a conservative environment, but didn't give the issues a lot of thought, until he had to- when he decided to run for Kennedy's seat in '94. There, he had to appeal to moderates and liberals to have a chance, so he adopted moderate and liberal positions, on abortion, gays, etc.

To Romney's way of thinking, getting elected is just a PROBLEM to be solved. If the solution to the problem involves changing his positions on the issues, so be it. Furthermore, Romney does not get why anyone sees a problem with this.

What does Romney REALLY think? What are his "core values"? In Romney's world, the question is meaningless.

And that's why he's struggling- nobody really trusts him. How can they? If someone asks you,"What do you believe?"' the answer CAN'T be "It depends".
But that is a true answer! It depends on who he is talking to.
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