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Old 02-25-2012, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by california-jewel View Post
If a Presdient has to use the Race Card for Empowerment Republician, or Democrat, they both lost my respect. Apease me please by not using issues such as a race card, to gain my optisim.
Define the race card, give us an example of when Obama used it.
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Old 02-25-2012, 02:08 AM
Location: Chicago, IL
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Originally Posted by MrClose View Post
As a 'black' man who is actually the Good Looking Mulatto (Obama being the other one ), I always like to 'balance' out the free advice given by the 'other' black man!

So-o-o .. You Democrats, especially you 'black' ones .. pay attention!
(I WILL be passing out grades at the end of the course)

A little historical quiz:

Question #1. During whose administration did the signature of an African-American first appear on U.S. currency? During that of a Republican or a Democrat President?

Question #2. Was the first African-American diplomat appointed by a Republican or a Democrat President?

Question #3. Was the first African-American popularly elected U.S. Senator a Republican or a Democrat?

Question #4. During the late 1950’s, William Monroe “Willie” Rainach, Sr., a Louisiana state legislator, led the “Massive Resistance” to desegregation in his state. Was Willie a Republican, or a Democrat?

Question #5. In 1957, nine African-American students attempted to enroll in Little Rock’s Central High School. When they were barred entry by Arkansas Governor Orval Faubus, the President of the United States ordered federal troops to the school to assure their access to an education. Was Faubus a Republican, or a Democrat? Was that President a Republican or a Democrat?

Question #6. In September 1962, U.S. Air Force veteran James H. Meredith enrolled as the first African-American student at the University of Mississippi. Governor Ross Barnett strongly opposed his entry into the school. Was Barnett a Democrat or a Republican?

Question #7. In 1965, the nation’s eyes were focused on the Selma Voting Rights Movement and three Selma-to-Montgomery marches. Marchers were opposed by the White Citizens’ Council and the Ku Klux Klan. On “Bloody Sunday,” March 7, 1965, about 600 civil rights marchers left Selma and walked east. At the Edmund Pettus Bridge they were confronted and attacked by state troopers and sheriff’s deputies. During this time, Theophilus Eugene “Bull” Connor, Alabama Public Safety Commissioner, became infamous for his brutal tactics against Civil Rights activists. Was “Bull” a Republican or a Democrat?

Question #8. A sitting U.S. Senator once held the position of Exalted Cyclops in the Klu Klux Klan. Although he never served in the Armed Forces, he once wrote, “I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side.” Of which party is he a member? Republican or Democrat?

Question #9: In the U.S. Senate’s passage of the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964, which political party had the highest percentage of its Senators vote for the Act? Republicans or Democrats?

Question #10. Was the first female African-American Cabinet member appointed by a Republican or a Democrat President? (Trick question.)

Question #11. When you compare the makeup of the Cabinet members who served under Democrat President Jimmy Carter with the Cabinet members appointed by Republican President George W. Bush, which President appointed the highest percentage of African-Americans to his Cabinet?

Question #12. Was the first African-American popularly elected Governor a Republican, or a Democrat?

Question #13. When was the race barrier broken with regard to the position of Secretary of State of the United States? Under a Republican or Democratic administration?

Question #14. When was the race barrier broken with regard to the position of Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the United States Armed Forces? During a Republican or Democrat President’s administration?

Question #15. When the first African-American member of the U.S. Armed Forces engaged in action for which he was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, was the President at the time a Democrat or a Republican?

The answers follow. Grade your own papers..

Answer #1. In 1881, Republican President James A. Garfield appointed Blanche Bruce as Register of the Treasurer, making him the first African-American whose signature appeared on U.S. paper currency. In 1880, at the Republican National Convention in Chicago, when he received 8 votes for nomination as the party’s vice presidential candidate, Bruce became the first African-American to win any votes at a major party’s nominating convention.

Answer #2. In 1869, Republican President U.S. Grant appointed Ebenezer D. Bassett (1833–1908) as the first African- American ambassador representing the United States. He was Ambassador to Haiti.

Answer #3. In 1966, Edward Brooke was the first African-American elected by popular vote to the U.S. Senate. He was a Republican Senator from Massachusetts.

Answer #4. “Willie” Rainach was a Democrat.

Answer #5. Orval Faubus was a Democrat. President Dwight D. Eisenhower was a Republican.

Answer #6. Ross Barnett was a Democrat.

Answer #7. “Bull” Connor was a Democrat.

Answer #8. Robert Byrd, Democrat Senator from West Virginia, is the longest serving Senator in U.S. history. Once upon a time he wore the white sheet and hood, but has since repented.

Answer #9. 82% of the Republican Senators voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964, while 69% of the Democrat Senators voted “Yes.”

Answer #10. Patricia Roberts Harris, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) and then Secretary of Education, was appointed to Democrat President Carter’s Cabinet.

Answer #11. Just 1 of the 21 persons Carter chose for his Cabinet, Patricia Harris, was an African-American, or 4.7% of his appointees. Of the 33 persons appointed by Bush to his Cabinet, 4 were African-Americans, or 12.1%. Bush’s cabinet also included several other persons of color.

Answer #12. Democrat Lawrence Douglas Wilder was the first African-American popularly elected as governor of a U.S. state. Wilder served as the 66th Governor of Virginia from 1990 to 1994. (Fair is fair.)

Answer #13. During the Republican administration of George W. Bush, Colin Powell became the first African-American Secretary of State. He was followed by Dr. Condoleezza Rice, also appointed by Bush, who was the first female African-American Secretary of State.

Answer #14. Republican President George H. W. Bush appointed General Colin Powell as Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in 1991. Earlier, Republican President Ronald Reagan appointed Powell as his National Security Advisor.

Answer #15. Sergeant William Harvey Carney (1840-1908) of the 54th Massachusetts Colored Infantry received the Medal of Honor for his actions during the Civil War Battle of Fort Wagner on July 18, 1863. The action of the 54th that day was depicted in the movie Glory. The citation for his medal read,

When the color sergeant was shot down, this soldier grasped the flag, led the way to the parapet, and planted the colors thereon. When the troops fell back he brought off the flag, under a fierce fire in which he was twice severely wounded.

The President was a Republican named Abraham Lincoln.
Hmmmm.... Southern strategy? Exodus of Dixiecrats from Democrats to...? Any comment?
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Old 02-25-2012, 02:37 AM
Location: Chesterfield,Virginia
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Originally Posted by EddieB.Good View Post
Hmmmm.... Southern strategy? Exodus of Dixiecrats from Democrats to...? Any comment?
I do have some comments 'but' if you're insinuating that they became conservative republicans .. You'd best go study up first!

The pro-Jim Crow Democrats encountered resistance from the Republican Party and other Democrats to address civil rights , in part due to the fact that over 2 million blacks had served in the military in World War II, and while served in segregated units, they received equal pay and benefits.

When Harry Truman was nominated to be the Democratic nominee at the 1948 Democratic convention, conflicts erupted. Some liberal Democrats joined Henry Wallace’s Progressive Party. Others doubted Truman was electable and wanted to remove him from contention. When Minneapolis mayor Hubert Humphrey, under the protest of Southern Democrats, led a group of Northern liberals to add a commitment to civil rights to the platform, several dozen delegates walked out of the convention. Five days after the beginning of the Democratic convention in on July 12, 1948, over 6,000 people came to Birmingham, Alabama to hold their own convention, develop their own platform and nominate their own candidate for the 1948 presidential race.

This group consisted of individuals from thirteen states, mainly South Carolina, Alabama and Mississippi, and southern states with large black populations. Led by Governor Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, they worked quickly to developed a platform. Their goal was to secure enough electoral votes to prevent either Republican nominee Thomas Dewey or Harry Truman from winning election, forcing the election to be decided by the House of Representatives. If this had occurred, each state (of the then 48 states) would recieve one vote, and the Dixiecrats believed that they could deadlock the election until either the Republicans or Democrats would drop any commitment to civil rights from their party’s platform. A second goal was to have the Thurmond-Wright ticket “declared the ‘official’ Democratic Party ticket on ballots of all southern states. In the end, this ploy succeeded only in Alabama, Lousiana, Mississippi, and South Carolina, all Deep South states. Georgia was lone Deep South state to remain loyal to the national Democratic Party; the Dixiecrat ticket appeared on Georgia ballots as a third party”.

At their Birmingham convention, the Dixiecrats nominated Strom Thurmond and Mississippi governor Fielding Wright as their candidates for President and Vice-President. A few weeks later, at their Oklahoma City headquarters, the party unanimously adopted the following platform:

We believe that the Constitution of the United States is the greatest charter of human liberty ever conceived by the mind of man.
We oppose all efforts to invade or destroy the rights guaranteed by it to every citizen of this republic.

We stand for social and economic justice, which, we believe can be guaranteed to all citizens only by a strict adherence to our Constitution and the avoidance of any invasion or destruction of the constitutional rights of the states and individuals. We oppose the totalitarian, centralized bureaucratic government and the police nation called for by the platforms adopted by the Democratic and Republican Conventions.

We stand for the segregation of the races and the racial integrity of each race; the constitutional right to choose one's associates; to accept private employment without governmental interference, and to learn one's living in any lawful way. We oppose the elimination of segregation, the repeal of miscegenation statutes, and the control of private employment by Federal bureaucrats called for by the misnamed civil rights program. We favor home-rule, local self-government and a minimum interference with individual rights.

We oppose and condemn the action of the Democratic Convention in sponsoring a civil rights program calling for the elimination of segregation, social equality by Federal fiat, regulations of private employment practices, voting, and local law enforcement.

We affirm that the effective enforcement of such a program would be utterly destructive of the social, economic and political life of the Southern people, and of other localities in which there may be differences in race, creed or national origin in appreciable numbers.

We stand for the check and balances provided by the three departments of our government. We oppose the usurpation of legislative functions by the executive and judicial departments. We unreservedly condemn the effort to establish in the United States a police nation that would destroy the last vestige of liberty enjoyed by a citizen.

We demand that there be returned to the people to whom of right they belong, those powers needed for the preservation of human rights and the discharge of our responsibility as democrats for human welfare. We oppose a denial of those by political parties, a barter or sale of those rights by a political convention, as well as any invasion or violation of those rights by the Federal Government. We call upon all Democrats and upon all other loyal Americans who are opposed to totalitarianism at home and abroad to unite with us in ignominiously defeating Harry S. Truman, Thomas E. Dewey and every other candidate for public office who would establish a Police Nation in the United States of America.

We, therefore, urge that this Convention endorse the candidacies of J. Strom Thurmond and Fielding H. Wright for the President and Vice-president, respectively, of the United States of America (Conigliaro, 2010).
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Old 02-25-2012, 03:52 AM
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If the Democrats are so good for black voters why is black unemployment at an all time high?
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Old 02-25-2012, 04:58 AM
Location: Too far from home.
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Originally Posted by dober1 View Post
Thanks for the history lesson on page 2 Mrclose. Seriously. The photo has nothing to do with Mrclose's post I just thought it was amusing since we were talking about cards. Sorry if you are seeing double I only meant to post one photo.

Not seeing double, just you repeating yourself.

Do you always cover being offensive by passing it off as humor? I see it for what it was meant to be.


When I hear "race card" I shut down and pretty much don't hear much after it leaves someone's mouth. Pulling the "race card" is nothing more than a convenient tool, like a pen knife that has all those little gadgets attached to it and serves several purposes. The "Race Card" is no different from the "Death Card". It sends a negative message.

I don't understand why the President and running candidates don't talk to the American people as a whole and tell the American people as a whole what they will do for all Americans. What they are succeeding at is widening the divide between races.

1. To Black People: I'm going to do this and that for you.
2. To Hispanics: I'm going to that and this for you.
3. To Illegals: You're going!! You're staying!!! (Which one is it???)
4. To White People (and all other minorities): Let me finish addressing 1, 2 and 3, and I'll get back to you.

It seems today everyone has their own personal race card.

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Old 02-25-2012, 05:31 AM
Location: Too far from home.
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Originally Posted by Savoir Faire View Post
Define the race card, give us an example of when Obama used it.
March 2008.
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:33 AM
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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In this forum the race card is not thrown as much as it was two years ago. Back then if you said anything negative about Obama or did not support his policies you might be hit with the race card. Now the race card is thrown less frequent in threads that the OP did not intend race to be a issue. Of course there are exceptions to that rule when this gem was thrown yesterday in a thread entitled " would you support a 15% flat tax"

If you ask the bottom 49.5% to pay taxes (which they currently don't) you are being unfair if not outright cruel/racist.
There you have it 53 people including myself are now cruel/racist for supporting a flat tax.

So I say to the OP that the right does not always invite the race card sometimes it unfairly comes flying out of the deck.
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:38 AM
Location: Houston
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I saw someone the other day pull the race card, his statement "If you support the reinstitution of negro slavery you are a racist."
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:50 AM
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Mr. Close is pretty close to right about the declining effectiveness of the race card. I wouldn't say that the era is over, but the tide is slowly turning. As evidence, look at the 2008 presidential campaign. Pres. Obama rarely resorted to using the race card, and when he did it got him into trouble even with the liberal, in-the-tank media:
Obama Concedes Racial Dimension to ‘Dollar Bill’ Comments; Says McCain Campaign Not Racist, But Cynical - ABC News

Or there is the example when he impulsively played the race card in defense of his friend Prof. Gates against the police. Again he paid a big PR price and had to shuck & jive (as Jay Carney might put it) his way out of the mess.

Pres. Obama to his credit is smart enough to realize the problems the tactic creates, and generally tries to steer clear. During the 2008 primaries he had to pull back his own campaign from using the tactic against Hillary. Unfortunately, few on the left are as smart as Obama, so the tactic will continue to be trotted out, but for the most part it just doesn't work any more.
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Old 02-25-2012, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Savoir Faire View Post
Define the race card, give us an example of when Obama used it.
When you, as President of the US, publicly endorse, African Americans for Obama, sorry that is definitely calling in the race card.

President Obama Announces the 2012 Launch of African Americans for Obama - YouTube
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