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Old 03-02-2012, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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The GOP is most welcome to make contraception an issue if they want - especially since polls indicate the American people support the Administrations' position by 2 - 1.

I say - let the GOP have at it.



Ken

The whole issue is just another anti-abortion attempt in disguise, and it has become another instance of the far right side of the GOP shooting itself in the foot.

Public opinion is solidly against their efforts, and yesterday, Mitch O'Connell, the Senate GOP leader, told the Senate Repubs he didn't want to see any more of this kind of nonsense until after the election.

Another backfire on wing-nut overreach. The majority of voters simply don't care very much about social issues this time around- they want more oil regulation and the gas prices to go down. They want the Congressional deadlocks stopped, and they want the housing problems- dead mortgages, etc. fixed.

Most of all, they want jobs to continue to come back from overseas, their decaying Interstates and bridges repaired, and want the country to start acting like it's the greatest nation in the world again.
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Old 03-02-2012, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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GOP making contraception, which is widely used in the US, an election year issue is bad strategy on the GOP's part. And I'm a republican.

Stupid stupid stupid stupid. Wouldn't expect anything less from my party.
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Old 03-02-2012, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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WTF is going on? And how have we been manipulated into spending so much time butting heads over this? IMO the Obama administration went after the Catholic Church just to create this distraction, and the Democrats are happy to push Pelosi out there to berate Rush and Santorum and say any stupid inflammatory thing just to keep the heat off this president.

Gas up your car lately? Go to the supermarket? Watch your kid try to get a job? We have lots of things to talk about, but contraception is a phony social issue the Democrats will do everything they can to keep on the front burner to protect this loser-in-chief.

Of course Obama forced this fight by violating the constitution. Of course he needs to distract from his abysmal record.
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:02 AM
 
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Of course Obama forced this fight by violating the constitution. Of course he needs to distract from his abysmal record.
28 states have had the exactly the same insurance regulations for years and there has been zero outrage from Catholics. Obama's people played rope-a-dope on this issue knowing that the Republican candidates(Santorum and Gingrich) wold go full derp with it. So now women's reproductive rights, and not the economy is the centerpiece of the election. And the GOPs hard right-wing stance on the issue has alienated so-called "independents" and a lot of women voters.

It's like he White House is playing chess while the Republican Party these days is barely capable of a game of checkers.
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Yup. Women are dedicated voters, and once they're angry at a party, they don't go back.

The worst mistake the GOP did so far this year was creating an all male Senate panel to look at this. They all sat with stupified looks on their faces day after day while one professional woman after another lambasted them. And they didn't even have the sense to know when to get out when the gettin' was still good.

Every single woman in my life watched that mess, and every one of them is very pissed off. It takes a true idiot to ignore Mamma- and we all know that when Mamma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!

The GOP lost the women in 2008, and now they seem hell-bent to lose the few that still remain. Chalk up another one for the old white crazy fat guys. Angering half the electorate is a good way to guarantee another bucket of whoop-ass will be delivered.
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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28 states have had the exactly the same insurance regulations for years and there has been zero outrage from Catholics. Obama's people played rope-a-dope on this issue knowing that the Republican candidates(Santorum and Gingrich) wold go full derp with it. So now women's reproductive rights, and not the economy is the centerpiece of the election. And the GOPs hard right-wing stance on the issue has alienated so-called "independents" and a lot of women voters.

It's like he White House is playing chess while the Republican Party these days is barely capable of a game of checkers.
It borders on unfair.
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Old 03-02-2012, 10:38 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Of course Obama forced this fight by violating the constitution. Of course he needs to distract from his abysmal record.
Don't blame him for your party's stupidity.
THEY'RE the ones making an issue of it - not HIM.



Ken
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Old 03-02-2012, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Don't blame him for your party's stupidity.
THEY'RE the ones making an issue of it - not HIM.



Ken
But, but... He's not trying to stop them from making it an issue.
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:23 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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But, but... He's not trying to stop them from making it an issue.
Yeah, so much for "the party of personal responsibility" eh? They can't even take responsibility for legislation THEY introduce. Apparently "personal responsibility" is only important when it's SOMEONE ELSE who is responsible.

Geeze!

Ken
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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WTF is going on? And how have we been manipulated into spending so much time butting heads over this? IMO the Obama administration went after the Catholic Church just to create this distraction, and the Democrats are happy to push Pelosi out there to berate Rush and Santorum and say any stupid inflammatory thing just to keep the heat off this president.

Gas up your car lately? Go to the supermarket? Watch your kid try to get a job? We have lots of things to talk about, but contraception is a phony social issue the Democrats will do everything they can to keep on the front burner to protect this loser-in-chief.
The MSM, the Left and obama think they have a winning issue that will bring women voters to their side. This is intentional and deliberate distraction from obama's record.
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