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Old 03-03-2012, 01:57 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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What would the Scientology-based employer allow for medication for someone diagnosed with depression? Herbal tea?
Or maybe a sit-down, one-on-one consultation with Tom Cruise, at the end of which both Cruise and the "patient" would get to jump up and down on the couch for five minutes, yelling "we love you, L. Ron Hubbard" over and over.
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Old 03-03-2012, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Here and There
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Well this might be hard for you to understand and believe, but there are a heck of a lot of women that support Republicans and a heck of a lot of them are conservative. Do you realize how you just controdicted yourself? You said we should not allow insurance companies to dictate based on personal beliefs, well you are saying they should cover or not cover based on your beliefs plus it isn't the insurance companies that are the issue, it is the right of some to decide what shoud be covered.

BTW, I don't like the name calling either.
I am saying that the insurance companies should have to cover all medications. No contradiction's there. If you don't want/need/believe in birth control, don't get any. But don't deny the other females in our country their right to it. Listen, I have no use for Viagra, Cholesterol or Osteoporosis medications, but others do. Who am I to tell them that their medications will no longer be covered? Also, I have zero problem pitching in my tax dollars to make sure people get their meds.
You may not "like" the name calling, but by continuing to support this you absolutely endorse women being treated like nothing more than objects. This whole conversation is like an episode from Mad Men: "Look girl's, a typewriter!A man designed it so it's easy to use, even for a woman".
Shame on you, nmnita.
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:32 PM
 
Location: FL
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When righties call women skanks and sluts, what do you expect
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:40 PM
 
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Yes the Republicans have looked like a circus at times, but I think your poll is silly.

#1 Women tend to favor Democrats. In 2008 Obama won women by 13 points, while only winning men by 1 point.

#2 Your poll shows that Obama has merely maintained his 13 point edge with women and there is plenty of time before November for the Republican winner to gain ground with women and extend a lead with male voters.
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Not only are there many types of tax exempt organizations, there are several types of organizations which are eligible for 501c(3) tax exempt status, which is applicable to religious organizations.

And surely you are not so naive as to believe that the IRS granting tax exempt status to a religious organization is no different from congress establishing a state religion or passing laws which give preferential status to any religion?

My point, which has been picked up on by other posters in this thread, is that allowing employers to disallow medical prescriptions or treatment based on religion is a slippery slope and if stepped on could open up a slew of problems. What would the Scientology-based employer allow for medication for someone diagnosed with depression? Herbal tea?
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Or maybe a sit-down, one-on-one consultation with Tom Cruise, at the end of which both Cruise and the "patient" would get to jump up and down on the couch for five minutes, yelling "we love you, L. Ron Hubbard" over and over.
ARRRRRGGGG..you beat me to the Tom Cruise "thang"
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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Oh, come on! It was the BLUNT Amendment, as in ROY BLUNT, (R) MO.
And the vote was 51-48; it would appear that most Republicans voted FOR it. And Blunt isn't finished:

Roy Blunt On Contraception Debate: 'I'm Confident This Issue Is Not Over'
Do you know the Blunt Amendment did not propose to outlaw contraception? That is what the MSM would lead you to believe. It only would have outlawed forcing insurance companies to provide it for "free".
This is part of a greater issue concerning our liberty and the constitution. What will King Obama be allowed to mandate next?

If states want to force insurance companies to provide contraceptives they can. It is a power granted from the constitution. Or, they can outlaw contraceptives.
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:39 PM
 
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Yes the Republicans have looked like a circus at times, but I think your poll is silly.

#1 Women tend to favor Democrats. In 2008 Obama won women by 13 points, while only winning men by 1 point.

#2 Your poll shows that Obama has merely maintained his 13 point edge with women and there is plenty of time before November for the Republican winner to gain ground with women and extend a lead with male voters.
No, it's not silly. Obama had lost his edge with women. Since December he's gained it back. That's the story.
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:40 PM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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Do you know the Blunt Amendment did not propose to outlaw contraception? That is what the MSM would lead you to believe. It only would have outlawed forcing insurance companies to provide it for "free".
This is part of a greater issue concerning our liberty and the constitution. What will King Obama be allowed to mandate next?

If states want to force insurance companies to provide contraceptives they can. It is a power granted from the constitution. Or, they can outlaw contraceptives.
How is it "free" if the health insurance premiums are being paid?
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:45 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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ARRRRRGGGG..you beat me to the Tom Cruise "thang"
He He

Do it anyway.

My jokes tend to be pretty lame - I'm sure yours will be much funnier.
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Old 03-03-2012, 06:16 PM
 
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No, it's not silly. Obama had lost his edge with women. Since December he's gained it back. That's the story.
And once Santorum fades into the sunset it will drift back to where it was.
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