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Old 03-05-2012, 07:50 PM
 
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What state doesn't have money for natural disasters? Why would someone live in a state that has natural disasters and doesnt plan for it? Seems like someone who isn't very smart. Charity from others is another way. Did you miss the part about other states chipping in during 9/11? Maybe you are so used to government handouts you don't believe in charity. As long as government is doing the job of society more are inclined to not give since "they gave at the office".
Well, it seems that most of the upper Gulf coast had a little more than they could handle with Katrina...

Outside of the immediate responders, most of the 9/11 disaster response was funded federally.

If people "gave at the office," you would wind up about 90% short every time.


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LMAO become informed.
Texas receives about as much as they pay in.
The Tax Foundation - Federal Taxes Paid vs. Federal Spending Received by State, 1981-2005

I'll be waiting for your proof that Ron Pauls polices don't work. Look at the mini depression in the early 1920's. become informed. Otherwise you'll be spouting archaic nonsense like "Texas has had a highly disproportionate amount of "other states'" money going to it" .
When in FACT they haven't

next please.
Using your provided data (for TX, in billions):

Paid Received
2003: $122.6 $140.5
2004: $127.5 $141.9
2005: $146.9 $148.7

The other problem is that these stats don't include military payroll which is probably about another $3 billion. So not only do your own provided stats prove you wrong, you're on the hook for another $3 Billion.

The proof that Ron Paul's policies don't work can be found between the years of about 1850 and 1933. Do we really need to have company stores, bankers lending out gold they don't have, and kids chained to machines again to relearn those lessons?

Next please, indeed...
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:00 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Judging by the many posts here about not caring what happens to our fellow citizens there is good reason the government did step in to assist those in need. The days of people helping each other on a large scale is over and gone, if they truely ever existed to begin with.



Yes, thank GOD FEMA was there for the great SF Earthquake and the historic Galveston Hurricane.
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:23 PM
 
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The individual states are supposed to provide disaster relief, not the federal government.
When was this decided?
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:06 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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When was this decided?

Before FEMA started picking the winners and losers, of others money.
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:39 PM
 
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When they wrote the Constitution.
Really? Which part of the constitution says the fed govt cannot provide disaster relief? Which part of the state constitutions say the can?

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Before FEMA started picking the winners and losers, of others money.
You are comfortable with Ron Paul pork spending fed money on park benches and decorative street lights in Galveston but object to fed money going towards people who's homes, infrastructure, and businesses have been wiped out.
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Texas
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thanks, that is exactly how I see it: what difference does it make whether the state or the feds help out? It is still government and it still takes tax $$s.
Why should I be forced to pay for another states mis management? Why don't you believe in personal responsibility?Forcefully taking my money is okay as long as its for your cause, understood.

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I wonder if people realize the cost per person is minute compared to many other government programs. I do think some posters do need to think through what the are preaching.

Nita
Oh sure stealings okay as long as YOU get to decide what is a big enough amount to qualify as bad. You have been slowly bled to death by taxes and fees and are too blind to see it.

What you refuse to see is the ineffectiveness of the Federal government and their lack of knowledge of whats best for that area. But those with a blinded agenda say and do some very dumb things. The choice is have someone with local knowledge to run things or a complete stranger. Gee lets pick the complete stranger. How dumb is that?
Fema has proven time and time again yet the lemmings continue to want the big federal government to save them since they rely on them so much.
The state politicians know better. Only a fool would think otherwise. It would be better if Government handed over the money to the locals as Ron Paul wanted to do when they had a disaster but FEMA handled it and of course did a sub par job once again.
People are so blinded at times they cannot see.

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Old 03-05-2012, 10:28 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Really? Which part of the constitution says the fed govt cannot provide disaster relief? Which part of the state constitutions say the can?


You are comfortable with Ron Paul pork spending fed money on park benches and decorative street lights in Galveston but object to fed money going towards people who's homes, infrastructure, and businesses have been wiped out.



Private property and federal property. Big difference.

Responsibility, lies in the owner.
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Judging by the many posts here about not caring what happens to our fellow citizens there is good reason the government did step in to assist those in need. The days of people helping each other on a large scale is over and gone, if they truely ever existed to begin with.
That's just the ones you know who are like that. Start hanging out with better people. Granted it's their choice and unlike you and the other control freaks I wont force them to help.
The people I know and in my area are very helpful AND these people don't have money to spend yet have no problem pitching in. You should try it instead of wanting government to raise you from cradle to grave.
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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True on the first part, but then again the opposite can also be said. No they do not, we have Reps we voted for in both cases neither can claim to be better than the other. We are one Nation and should act like it, Pauls idea of every state running its own show without any interference from the Federal Government flys in the face of us being one Nation.
Disobey our founding document? Good thinking on your part yet again.
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Bingo! The motto for our nation from the Paul crowd is "E pluribus (not so) unum".
The motto from the big government crowd is "Don't believe in personal responsibility"
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