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Old 03-06-2012, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Originally Posted by Maabus1999 View Post
It all comes down to Ohio and Pennsylvania. It really does. You can throw every other state out for this election. At this time, I don't see Obama losing either.

On top of that, I think Florida might be closer then most people think due to the fact everyone in that state seems to hate Rick Scott.
Here's a scenario where the GOP still wins.

http://www.270towin.com/2012_electio....php?mapid=hys

The point is that you don't want to ignore any of the battleground states. All of them can be that last few electoral votes that seals the deal.

Edit: Not sure if this thing is saving my map or not.
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Old 03-06-2012, 02:13 PM
 
Location: West Egg
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lol...unlikely but that would work I guess, since the House breaks the tie.
The House does indeed break the tie ... voting by state delegation, not by individual member. In other words, Minnesota gets one vote in the House. Presumably, Minnesota's four Democratic members of the House and four Republican members of the House all vote and ... well, there you have it -- Minnesota is deadlocked and casts no vote. But it takes a majority of state delegations in the House to select the President, or 26 state delegations. A simple plurality (say 25 or less for one candidate, even fewer for another candidate, and a few ties) won't suffice. If this happens, the House fails to select a President. If such a situation goes until January 20, there is a vacancy in the Presidency, and the newly sworn-in Vice President ascends to the Presidency. If there is no Electoral College majority for the Vice President, the Senate picks the Vice President by simple majority.

One final note -- it's not this House and Senate that would select the President and Vice President in the case of no Electoral College majority. It's the new Congress that we'll elect in November.
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Old 03-06-2012, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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You sure about that? obama will win KS?
Could be wrong. No idea of the politics there..
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Old 03-06-2012, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Your gold standard;

43% approval today.

Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval

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Most of these assessments are demographically challenged. What impetus is there to swing the vote away from the President in districts he won in Florida and Ohio?

How is the GOP candidate polling in these Districts...How is the GOP candidate performing among women and Latino voters?


Source - Obama leads handily among Latinos - POLITICO.com

Not doing as well as you thought? Interesting.
You forgot this little nugget.

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One area where Republicans could gain back ground among Latino voters is by the choice of Vice President. Almost one-third of Latino voters say that they would consider voting Republican if there were a Latino on the ticket.

Both Florida junior Sen. Marco Rubio and New Mexico Gov. Susana Martínez have been mentioned as possible names for the eventual GOP presidential ticket.
One of the reason the dems are going after Rubio already.
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Old 03-06-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: NC
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Here's a scenario where the GOP still wins.

2012 Presidential Election Interactive Map and History of the Electoral College

The point is that you don't want to ignore any of the battleground states. All of them can be that last few electoral votes that seals the deal.

Edit: Not sure if this thing is saving my map or not.
New Mexico will be tough to pull for that scenario this year.
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Old 03-06-2012, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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My map would not register for some reason but I have the banksters and corporations winning, any body else get that?
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Old 03-06-2012, 02:42 PM
 
Location: West Egg
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New Mexico will be tough to pull for that scenario this year.
Yeah, that's a tough one to imagine -- in an election where the Democrats hold Ohio, it's hard to see them losing New Mexico.
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Old 03-06-2012, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Rhode Island
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Best projection for GOP 270-268 Obama In reality I think it is closer to 280-258.
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Old 03-06-2012, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Lightbulb lol...

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Your gold standard;

43% approval today.

"would consider"....lol

As if the run-up to the Nomination wasn't fun enough, you'd like to bring up a vice-president?

Pass the candy bars & gummi bears Please, we don't have enough popcorn to watch this train wreck.

Nothing in recent memory is more fun than watching the Republican's expose and destroy their own credibility...go ahead, Please make our day - "Pick a VP".

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Old 03-06-2012, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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New Mexico will be tough to pull for that scenario this year.
Arizona and Texas are both more pro-GOP this election cycle because of the Obama administrations seeming unconcern with the illegal immigration issue. New Mexico is a battleground state without a doubt. They voted for Obama in 2008 and Bush in 2004, so they're not a gimmie for either party.

The point is that you can win PA and OH and still lose the election by losing Iowa, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico and Florida. If you get both Ohio and Florida, that's hard to beat, but without FL it does not seal the deal.
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