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Old 03-20-2012, 12:34 PM
 
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I'm a huge democrat and even I think this article is BS. As long as this country is run by rich, white old men, the GOP will always be a strong party.
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Old 03-20-2012, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Read the rest of Zakaria's analysis here: Zakaria: The Republican Party

Way to go, GOP.
Certainly this isn't a slanted, left wing opinion is it? Of course not!!!!!
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Old 03-20-2012, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Read the rest of Zakaria's analysis here: Zakaria: The Republican Party

Way to go, GOP.
Not necessarily. That is when the "religion card" is played. There is no great uniter in the history of humanity than that.
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Old 03-20-2012, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Certainly this isn't a slanted, left wing opinion is it? Of course not!!!!!
No, it is not. Fareed Zakaria is pretty centrist and extremely knowledgeable. Worth reading whatever your political center of gravity. The dude is no partisan blowhard.
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Old 03-20-2012, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Certainly this isn't a slanted, left wing opinion is it? Of course not!!!!!
Instead of a good old accusation, how about you dissect his argument and show why his conclusion is misguided?
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Old 03-20-2012, 03:13 PM
 
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Certainly this isn't a slanted, left wing opinion is it? Of course not!!!!!
nmnita, is that the best you can come up with? Being that you supported Rick Perry for presidency, I'm not surprised at all.

I think it's a hoot that you would be quick to dismiss it as a left wing opinion instead of tackling some of Mr. Zakaria's points about the GOP candidates alienating the demographics other than angry white male voters.
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Old 03-20-2012, 03:22 PM
 
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nmnita, is that the best you can come up with? Being that you supported Rick Perry for presidency, I'm not surprised at all.

I think it's a hoot that you would be quick to dismiss it as a left wing opinion instead of tackling some of Mr. Zakaria's points about the GOP candidates alienating the demographics other than angry white male voters.
I think it's a good short opinion piece... I've got family members who are right-leaning moderates who absolutely loathe Barack Obama, yet aren't any rush to support any of the potential GOP nominees right now. Some might vote for an independent as a protest vote or just sit out the election. The Republicans took Nixon's "Southern Strategy" in from the late 60s/early 70s and have made it into the cornerpiece of their party. And it's won them a good number of presidential elections--however in the end run, it's backed them into a corner--every Republican primary becomes a race to the far side of the right wing(while on the other hand, Democratic candidates tend to shift right towards more centrist policies). I though that after 2008, we'd be talking about the economy first, and the culture war issues second--but here we are in 2012 and it's the same ol' ballgame.
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Old 03-20-2012, 03:29 PM
 
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I think it's a good short opinion piece... I've got family members who are right-leaning moderates who absolutely loathe Barack Obama, yet aren't any rush to support any of the potential GOP nominees right now. Some might vote for an independent as a protest vote or just sit out the election. The Republicans took Nixon's "Southern Strategy" in from the late 60s/early 70s and have made it into the cornerpiece of their party. And it's won them a good number of presidential elections--however in the end run, it's backed them into a corner--every Republican primary becomes a race to the far side of the right wing(while on the other hand, Democratic candidates tend to shift right towards more centrist policies). I though that after 2008, we'd be talking about the economy first, and the culture war issues second--but here we are in 2012 and it's the same ol' ballgame.
And that is precisely why the American voters will get screwed no matter who gets voted. It's now become a matter of voting against an insane presidential candidate.

Forum posters who have been participating in this thread will remember that I have consistently supported former GOP candidate Jon Hunstman who was a moderate Republicans but had stronger fiscal conservative ideology. He would have been a threat to Obama's presidency. He got the unfair label of being a RINO for appealing to facts, rational thinking, and compromising.

The funny thing is, Romney is more of a RINO and he's leading in the GOP race.
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Old 03-20-2012, 03:45 PM
 
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And that is precisely why the American voters will get screwed no matter who gets voted. It's now become a matter of voting against an insane presidential candidate.

Forum posters who have been participating in this thread will remember that I have consistently supported former GOP candidate Jon Hunstman who was a moderate Republicans but had stronger fiscal conservative ideology. He would have been a threat to Obama's presidency. He got the unfair label of being a RINO for appealing to facts, rational thinking, and compromising.

The funny thing is, Romney is more of a RINO and he's leading in the GOP race.
Well, it ain't over this year. If the GOP gets over their culture war mania and rallies behind Romney, it could be close.

I don't think that will happen though, because the party depends upon the diehard Evangelicals who will never fully support a Mormon. I could be wrong though. We'll see. Still nothing I have seen so far, from any of the GOP candidates is anything that would appeal to a center or center left person, or any person of color.

I agree that Huntsman was a good candidate. He may actually be better off to sit this one out. Whoever loses to Obama will not get a second chance, though Huntsman can say he did not get enough exposure this time around, and that would be true. Romney cannot pull that one.
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Old 03-20-2012, 04:01 PM
 
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The GOP can and will be able to win elections with angry white folks for a long ass time to come. They still have a few decades yet before that will all change. And they're hoping to have certain things in place that can't be overturned before the changes occur.
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