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Old 07-01-2012, 06:38 PM
 
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I see that we have the same act in CA, who knew?
California Courts to adopt open records policy - Sunshine Review
Interesting find. I notice that site discusses budgets, but see no signs of CAFRs. Amazing.
http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/...e_Review:About
Not seeing it here either.
http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Single_Audit

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Old 07-02-2012, 05:46 PM
 
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This is a classic example of some of the issues with "privatizing" elections.

(USA) 6/2012 - ACCENTURE HITS BBV WITH CEASE AND DESIST -
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Amazingly, Accenture, which sold its crap-on-a-stick high-school sophomoric completely insecure malfunctioning voter registration software to a bunch of states, so unsuccessfully that Colorado refused to pay and others, like Wisconsin and Shelby County, bought out the source code in order to try to bandaid it into a functional system, has decided to issue a DMCA protective order against Black Box Voting for exposing its flawed software.

Last time a voting system company did a DMCA takedown notice (Diebold, in 2004) it got socked with punitive charges for abusing the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, trying to use it to block distribution of material clearly published in the public interest.

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Old 07-05-2012, 11:07 PM
 
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Wow.

(CO) 07/2012 - JUDGE THREATENS GAG ORDER ON EFFORT TO RESTORE PRIVA...
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Don't be confused, and don't let anyone tell you that you shouldn't talk about this.

TO BE CLEAR: THE PUBLIC HAS BOTH THE RIGHT TO INSPECT BALLOTS AND THE RIGHT TO A SECRET BALLOT

Litigation led by The Citizen Center and sponsored by Black Box Voting's "Colorado Project" seeks to stop election officials from placing unique bar codes on voter ballots. Of course, the public has been mostly unaware that this is going on, so a threatened gag order from the judge on this case is a little creepy. Public education to let everyone know that political privacy is being compromised is crucial, and a gag order has no place in this fight.

Judge threatens gag order - Pueblo Chieftain: Colorado State And ...
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DENVER — A judge said he'll issue a gag order if necessary to keep a lawsuit about ballot secrecy issues from being tried in the press.
Magistrate Judge Michael Watanabe stated his intention during a status conference Monday in U.S. District Court to the attorney for a citizen group suing election officials in Chaffee County and five other counties.

"If I start seeing this case tried in the press, there will be (a gag order) issued," Watanabe told attorney Robert McGuire, who represents the group Citizen Center in its lawsuit.
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Old 07-09-2012, 05:53 PM
 
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ALL E-VOTING MACHINES IN NATION TO BE TRASHED! (In the Nation of Ireland)
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The company paid a mere €70,267 for the machines – a steal when one considers the €55 million they have cost the State to date. The price paid also works out at just half the annual €140,000 cost of storing them.

To help put those costs in perspective, 55 million Euro --- the cost of the systems to the state of Ireland to date --- is about $69.5 million.

In this country, the U.S. wasted almost $4 billion (with a "b"), via the Help American Vote Act (HAVA) of 2002, on the very same type of worthless, unreliable, easily hacked machines that the Irish are smart enough to get rid of entirely...


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and counting..........
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:09 PM
 
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Unsealed Ballot Bags in WI Recall's State Senate 'Recount' Suggest Fraud, Charge Republicans
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"Now they're concerned about unsealed ballots bags? Really?! Good! But where were they last year?

Though voters across the state mostly used verifiable hand-marked paper ballots to vote, we explained, almost none of them are actually checked by anybody afterwards to make sure the oft-failed, easily-manipulated computer tabulator systems used across the state actually tallied the results accurately."
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:49 PM
 
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If You're Not Concerned About Election Integrity in 2012, It's Because You're Not Paying Attention
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That said, as much ground as he covers, he and the experts he quotes still manage to understate the concerns, while failing to define what, in nearly a decade on this beat we have found, so far, to be the only apparent solution: Hand-marked paper ballots counted publicly, by hand, on Election Night, at the precinct, in front of all parties, observers and video cameras, with decentralized results posted at those precincts, before ballots are allowed to move anywhere.
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:14 PM
 
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If You're Not Concerned About Election Integrity in 2012, It's Because You're Not Paying Attention
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That said, as much ground as he covers, he and the experts he quotes still manage to understate the concerns, while failing to define what, in nearly a decade on this beat we have found, so far, to be the only apparent solution: Hand-marked paper ballots counted publicly, by hand, on Election Night, at the precinct, in front of all parties, observers and video cameras, with decentralized results posted at those precincts, before ballots are allowed to move anywhere.
Right. At the precinct means the voting location, correct? I don't think they should leave the building without being counted first, and recounted if need be. Maybe they shouldn't leave the location at all, in case there is a question at a later date.
Is the military vote going to be handled any differently this time around? It is outrageous that their votes haven't been counted in the past, that must be addressed.
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:19 PM
 
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Right. At the precinct means the voting location, correct? I don't think they should leave the building without being counted first, and recounted if need be. Maybe they shouldn't leave the location at all, in case there is a question at a later date.
Is the military vote going to be handled any differently this time around? It is outrageous that their votes haven't been counted in the past, that must be addressed.
Yep on location. In transport, many things have and can happen.
The push for internet voting as a method for absentees or mail ins is what I see. For some reason they mail them late. This encourages people to use the handy dandy electronic means. Hasn't caught on like they would like, but they are pushing it with grant money.
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:23 PM
 
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Not Again! How Our Voting System Is Ripe For Theft and Meltdown in 2012

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Disenfranchisement by Machine

Yet these machines are how many swing states and vast stretches of the country will vote in November, according to Simons and Smith. In fact, the Verified Voting Web site lists more than 1,000 election jurisdictions nationally, with more than 60 million registered voters, which will be using entirely paperless voting systems.
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Old 07-16-2012, 06:08 PM
 
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Wonder why CA has been pushing so many to be mail in precincts with the new regs?

Another Reason to Avoid Absentee Voting: CA City Officials Plead Guilty to Absentee Election Fraud


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Last Thursday, in Cudahy, CA, a small city near Los Angeles, top city officials, including former Mayor David Silva and former City Manager and Code Enforcement Director Angel Perales, agree to plead guilty to federal charges of bribery and extortion.

From another thread.
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Historically, there have been "issues" with absentee voting. This is why pushing absentees to internet voting is significant. It can be enough of a percentage to swing an election.

This is classic plausible deniability. Confuse the issue or create a problem and provide the solution. I don't understand how legally they can make you an absentee voter. I would check into that.

Look here. Seems they just banned write-ins.
(CA) State of California

Something going on.
(CA) 1/12 - State: NEW VOTE BY MAIL ACCOUNTING RULES
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