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Old 03-29-2012, 06:41 AM
 
Location: North America
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Christopher Monckton also believes he has won the Nobel prize that has never happened, stem cells are just really small babies, AIDs only afflicts gays, and surgery/pharmaceuticals doen't work. He also likes to claim he is part of the House of Lords, and has been publicly asked a number of times to stop lying and go away.

He has stood a number of times for vote, and yet has never actually been voted into anything. He has never gotten a single vote in the house of lords, probably because they don't like him lying about being a part of it, and when he ran for nomination in a general election for the house of commons he received an astonishing 1.1% of the vote and lost a ton of money.

He never worked for the prime minister, but was actually a journalist till being part of a public policy group for rent-to-mortgages schemes to eliminate council housing. From 1995 to current he has owned a shirt shop with his wife and occasionally surfaces to write bizarre crap.

Oh, and he made a really cool puzzle using a dodecagon.

The only thing he is a good example of is why having a family tree that is a straight line is a bad thing. He has zero credibility and a long string of very bizarre behavior and a long list of being caught lying. His endorsement actually makes it look worse.

It would have been better to get the guy who rants on street corners about the mole people endorse it. No one would have known who that guy was, so at least there would be a delay before the laughter ensued of who you are championing.

What you have written is just another lie in a very long string of them.

In other words, another birther whacko.

Why am I not surprised.
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Old 03-29-2012, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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In other words, another birther whacko.

Why am I not surprised.
Not just a birther wacko, a narcissistic pathological liar with delusions of adequacy.

He's like the arrogant kid in school that everyone hates, and holds the most outrageous views, but loves it even through the abuse and ridicule because at least people are giving him attention. Like a thin grown up Eric Cartman.

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Old 03-29-2012, 09:55 AM
 
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Not just a birther wacko, a narcissistic pathological liar with delusions of adequacy.

He's like the arrogant kid in school that everyone hates, and holds the most outrageous views, but loves it even through the abuse and ridicule because at least people are giving him attention. Like a thin grown up Eric Cartman.

Oh, in other words, a hall monitor.
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Old 03-29-2012, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Point Hope Alaska
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Not just a birther wacko, a narcissistic pathological liar with delusions of adequacy.

He's like the arrogant kid in school that everyone hates, and holds the most outrageous views, but loves it even through the abuse and ridicule because at least people are giving him attention. Like a thin grown up Eric Cartman.
You can insult me - call me all the names you want - it merely shows your lack of being able to have a meaningful discussion on the subject.

It is a typical Saul Alinsky tactic!
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Old 03-29-2012, 10:11 AM
 
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It is a typical Saul Alinsky tactic!
How so?

Insulting your opponent in an argument seems to be a tactic that goes back hundreds, perhaps thousands,of years. You engage in the tactic yourself. So perhaps you could defend your assertion....
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Old 03-29-2012, 10:14 AM
 
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How so?

Insulting your opponent in an argument seems to be a tactic that goes back hundreds, perhaps thousands,of years. You engage in the tactic yourself. So perhaps you could defend your assertion....

You know you just stepped into quicksand, don't you?
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Old 03-29-2012, 10:15 AM
 
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It is a typical Saul Alinsky tactic!
Yeah, Saul and me, we're tight.
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Old 03-29-2012, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Forget Obama for a minute. What's the penalty for anyone running for president that isn't eligible? Is there a crime? Or, is the crime committed by the government responsible party that security cleared them?
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Old 03-29-2012, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You can insult me - call me all the names you want - it merely shows your lack of being able to have a meaningful discussion on the subject.

It is a typical Saul Alinsky tactic!
If you don't want to be called a liar, don't lie. If some one is called a liar and the person cannot substantiate the claim then yes it is an insult. These claims are substantiated very easily, and have been pointed out many (many) times, so it is simply a statement of fact. Same with Christopher Monckton, who has been caught doing it so many times it has become plain sad. Including public denunciations from the Queen and house of Lords, the first of such in the history of Britain.

There is no meaningful discussion if you simply decide to say anything in an attempt to deceive the other person and be right without any integrity. Then when the lies are pointed out starts raving about being insulted. You have provided a long series of reasons that people's word is no longer worth very much.
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:08 PM
 
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Forget Obama for a minute. What's the penalty for anyone running for president that isn't eligible?
there is no penalty. in the past ineligible candidates have run. some have made it on to a states ballot, some have been denied. there have been no criminal charges or any other penalties levied against any of them.
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