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Old 03-23-2012, 07:00 PM
 
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Just in.. video of GOP fixing the delegate meating, so that Ron Paul would not win the delegates.


Bryan Spencer Speaks about Rigging St. Charles Caucus - YouTube

And do you still dont belive this is going on all over the country??
They are afraid of him! I wish I could vote in the US!!
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Just in.. video of GOP fixing the delegate meating, so that Ron Paul would not win the delegates.


Bryan Spencer Speaks about Rigging St. Charles Caucus - YouTube

And do you still dont belive this is going on all over the country??
They are afraid of him! I wish I could vote in the US!!
It has come to this. Either arrogance or stupidity or both. people like this think they can get away with anything. Any wonder why these skeeves didn't want recording devices in place in order to stop others from seeing them use force and coercion.
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:59 PM
 
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Yeah I saw this on another thread. Something else. And seriously the most alarming thing is the guy seems to think it's all good.
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:41 PM
 
Location: NC
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You are talking to the wall here.

GOPers in this forum thinks election fraud in the GOP primaries is a "hoax" - like big foot, climate change, evolution, yeti, Loch Ness monster etc. In their world of reality, a Satanic Communist black Muslim from Kenya has illegally taken over their country, and they are the holy warriors ordained by Jesus Christ, fighting to regain their Churches back from Obama before he paints them over with yellow hammers and sickles. Stymieing their progress is a kooky frail old man lamenting about some things called "Constitution", "Liberty" etc. Who cares? They are following Saint Santorum of the Holy Order of Condom Police to victory, and can't be bothered by nuisances like these.
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Old 03-24-2012, 01:22 AM
 
Location: Perpetuality On Wheels
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This serious rigging of election would catch fires in all over our Western main news media had it happen to one of those world adversaries. Now see what happens here. It's a shame beyond scale.
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Old 03-24-2012, 01:35 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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... and that's when the fight started.

The Missouri caucus was the sterling example of how to completely ruin a caucus. I have not heard if the Missourians have come to any agreement yet. If not, does anyone know what will happen? Will they re-convene all the caucuses, only some of them, or what?

If they do, I hope they put a Parliamentarian up to run the show. No chairman with such an ignorance of Robert's Rules of Order should have ever been elected to that position in the first place.
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Old 03-24-2012, 01:41 AM
 
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One has to wonder what you aren't seeing.
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Old 03-24-2012, 01:47 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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The most troubling thing to me was Bryan Spencer. He felt a great need to support the guy who wrecked the caucus. If he was true to his party, Spencer should have been all in for replacing him immediately, rather than trying to cook up a way for him to save face.

That kind of thinking- gotta save my buddy's butt above all else- always leads to corruption. Once corruption starts, it always spreads.
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:04 AM
 
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The most troubling thing to me was Bryan Spencer. He felt a great need to support the guy who wrecked the caucus. If he was true to his party, Spencer should have been all in for replacing him immediately, rather than trying to cook up a way for him to save face.

That kind of thinking- gotta save my buddy's butt above all else- always leads to corruption. Once corruption starts, it always spreads.
Yeah, the whole thing about protecting his buddy who was only looking out for "you" and how he can't do it because it will seem "improper".

Meanwhile he admits to not wanting people to see what really happens at the caucuses.
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:12 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Yeah, the whole thing about protecting his buddy who was only looking out for "you" and how he can't do it because it will seem "improper".

Meanwhile he admits to not wanting people to see what really happens at the caucuses.
His mention of sausage making is true enough. Most people would be squeamish if they were to idly view the process. But it's a vital and necessary part of our system, and a caucus done well is roots democracy in it's most pure form.
All it needs is people who are willing to put their hands into the guts of our system and start mixing it up. It's not that hard to do after you accustom yourself to the matter at hand and go to it. It's always tastier when you do it well in the end, win or lose.
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