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Old 03-28-2012, 12:09 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Well, we all knew Mittens has a total lack of empathy and compassion when it comes to dogs, we now have proof that it also extends to human beings (not that a bunch of us didn't already suspect it):

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ROMNEY: Well, if they are 45 years old and they show up and say I want insurance because I have heart disease, it’s like, ‘Hey guys. We can’t play the game like that.
So, in the matter of life and death scenarios, if a person has a medical condition and hasn't been able to, say, afford to buy health insurance, it's a game?

For instance, in my own situation, my ex decided, when our youngest was four months old, to leave the family for someone he met on the internet. Over the years, I supported myself and my kids by working two, and sometimes three, jobs at a time - none of which offered health insurance - and none of which paid me enough to buy my own after I paid the house payment, food, utilities, day care, clothes for the kids, school supplies, etc., etc., etc.

Based on that, I WAS that 45-year-old person - minus the heart condition. Under the circumstances, if I had had a heart condition, should I be denied coverage? Which could mean the difference between my life or death?

"We're not going to play the game like that." Spoken by someone with no understanding, empathy, or compassion - - - - - -
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Old 03-28-2012, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Well, we all knew Mittens has a total lack of empathy and compassion when it comes to dogs, we now have proof that it also extends to human beings (not that a bunch of us didn't already suspect it):

So, in the matter of life and death scenarios, if a person has a medical condition and hasn't been able to, say, afford to buy health insurance, it's a game?

For instance, in my own situation, my ex decided, when our youngest was four months old, to leave the family for someone he met on the internet. Over the years, I supported myself and my kids by working two, and sometimes three, jobs at a time - none of which offered health insurance - and none of which paid me enough to buy my own after I paid the house payment, food, utilities, day care, clothes for the kids, school supplies, etc., etc., etc.

Based on that, I WAS that 45-year-old person - minus the heart condition. Under the circumstances, if I had had a heart condition, should I be denied coverage? Which could mean the difference between my life or death?

"We're not going to play the game like that." Spoken by someone with no understanding, empathy, or compassion - - - - - -
I heard those remarks by Romney and what he said was essentially the core argument for an individual mandate. He was not advocating letting that person die. Romney is not an idiot, but he has been compelled to behave and talk like one to appeal the idiots in his party.
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Old 03-28-2012, 02:05 PM
 
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Well, we all knew Mittens has a total lack of empathy and compassion when it comes to dogs, we now have proof that it also extends to human beings (not that a bunch of us didn't already suspect it):

So, in the matter of life and death scenarios, if a person has a medical condition and hasn't been able to, say, afford to buy health insurance, it's a game?

For instance, in my own situation, my ex decided, when our youngest was four months old, to leave the family for someone he met on the internet. Over the years, I supported myself and my kids by working two, and sometimes three, jobs at a time - none of which offered health insurance - and none of which paid me enough to buy my own after I paid the house payment, food, utilities, day care, clothes for the kids, school supplies, etc., etc., etc.

Based on that, I WAS that 45-year-old person - minus the heart condition. Under the circumstances, if I had had a heart condition, should I be denied coverage? Which could mean the difference between my life or death?

"We're not going to play the game like that." Spoken by someone with no understanding, empathy, or compassion - - - - - -
Yep. Then he goes on to add: “You’ve got to get insurance when you are well and then if you get ill, you are going to be covered.”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...ng-conditions/

Gee, thanks. How ignorant can someone possibly be of the real world most of us live in? Like you, I have been priced out of the market, even though I work full time and have no preexisting conditions. I would love to "get insurance while I'm well." Can you tell me how to afford that, Mr. Romney? The cost is out of reach for me and many other Americans.

He lives in his little bubble of privilege and doesn't have a clue.
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Old 03-28-2012, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Another day, another thoughtless comment.
I suppose that he probably really does believe that people are holding off buying health insurance until such time as they can 'game' the system by buying it when they become sick.
Of course he offers no solutions for this no-so-hypothetical situation, just an admonishment.
Typical.
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Old 03-28-2012, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Riverside
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Originally Posted by Cinebar View Post
Well, we all knew Mittens has a total lack of empathy and compassion when it comes to dogs, we now have proof that it also extends to human beings (not that a bunch of us didn't already suspect it):

So, in the matter of life and death scenarios, if a person has a medical condition and hasn't been able to, say, afford to buy health insurance, it's a game?

For instance, in my own situation, my ex decided, when our youngest was four months old, to leave the family for someone he met on the internet. Over the years, I supported myself and my kids by working two, and sometimes three, jobs at a time - none of which offered health insurance - and none of which paid me enough to buy my own after I paid the house payment, food, utilities, day care, clothes for the kids, school supplies, etc., etc., etc.

Based on that, I WAS that 45-year-old person - minus the heart condition. Under the circumstances, if I had had a heart condition, should I be denied coverage? Which could mean the difference between my life or death?

"We're not going to play the game like that." Spoken by someone with no understanding, empathy, or compassion - - - - - -
Romney's negatives are at an all-time high. I can't imagine his appearance on Leno helped him any:

Romney's negatives hit new high, poll finds - The Hill's Ballot Box
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Old 03-28-2012, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Yep. Then he goes on to add: “You’ve got to get insurance when you are well and then if you get ill, you are going to be covered.”

Obama Campaign: Romney ‘Out of Touch’ on Pre-Existing Conditions - ABC News

Gee, thanks. How ignorant can someone possibly be of the real world most of us live in? Like you, I have been priced out of the market, even though I work full time and have no preexisting conditions. I would love to "get insurance while I'm well." Can you tell me how to afford that, Mr. Romney? The cost is out of reach for me and many other Americans.

He lives in his little bubble of privilege and doesn't have a clue.
Romney does understand this; he is an expert on health care. But he has tossed all his knowledge in the trash to pander to the extremists that are today's Republicans. It is shameful and he does not deserve to be President with such lack of moral fiber that he won't stand for what he knows is right.
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Old 03-28-2012, 02:31 PM
 
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Romney does understand this; he is an expert on health care. But he has tossed all his knowledge in the trash to pander to the extremists that are today's Republicans. It is shameful and he does not deserve to be President with such lack of moral fiber that he won't stand for what he knows is right.
This. ^^^ If he campaigned as the East Coast moderate that he really is I might have considered him seriously as a candidate. I actually admire that breed, the Susan Collins', Olympia Snowes and Scott Browns of the party. They stand on their beliefs in spite of the adverse winds blowing at them from the fringes of their party. They vote according to what they believe to be right, even when unpopular. With Romney, the very idea that someone in his party might not agree with something he believes seems to terrify him, sending him scurrying to deny he ever said it, thought it, or even considered it. Yeah, that's leadership material all right.

I understand that when campaigning a candidate has to move a bit to the left or right to appeal to the base, but Romney has taken it to a whole new level. He seems to prefer looking stupid to standing on a principle--ANY principle--that the fringe right might not like.
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Old 03-28-2012, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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"We're not going to play the game like that." Spoken by someone with no understanding, empathy, or compassion - - - - - -
Wrong! ... It was spoken by a rational adult who, unlike children and (pseudo-)Liberals, understands that the discipline of any economy, capitalist, socialist or Marxist, eventually imposes limits on human compassion.

The original post fails to dfifferentiate, for example, whether that 45-year-old got where he/she is through bad genes or something else that's no fault of their own, or through a deliberate choice of lifestyle -- the dangers of which have been well-documented and warned against.

If you Lefties and dreamers are determined to attack the belief that people who think ought to live not only better, but longer than those who refuse to, then please take your foolishnes back to Europe where it belongs.

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Old 03-28-2012, 02:49 PM
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This. ^^^ If he campaigned as the East Coast moderate that he really is I might have considered him seriously as a candidate. I actually admire that breed, the Susan Collins', Olympia Snowes and Scott Browns of the party. They stand on their beliefs in spite of the adverse winds blowing at them from the fringes of their party. They vote according to what they believe to be right, even when unpopular. With Romney, the very idea that someone in his party might not agree with something he believes seems to terrify him, sending him scurrying to deny he ever said it, thought it, or even considered it. Yeah, that's leadership material all right.

I understand that when campaigning a candidate has to move a bit to the left or right to appeal to the base, but Romney has taken it to a whole new level. He seems to prefer looking stupid to standing on a principle--ANY principle--that the fringe right might not like.
Realization will come to Romney but it will be too late. He had a legitimate chance to become President but threw it away by trying to appease the nutjobs that make up the extreme right base of the GOP. If he had stuck to his previous history of moderate politics, the polls would have shown that he was picking up moderate and independent voters that would have made it all but impossible to lose to Obama. The GOP party leadership would have had no problem telling the theocratic, Teapublican nutjob wing of the party to sit down and shut up if it was clear that Romney was on a path to victory. Instead he has tried to look like a lunatic right winger and now nobody likes him at all.
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Old 03-28-2012, 02:53 PM
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The original post fails to dfifferentiate, for example, whether that 45-year-old got where he/she is through bad genes or something else that's no fault of their own, or through a deliberate choice of lifestyle -- the dangers of which have been well-documented and warned against.
I don't see how this matters. Are you saying that certain people should just be left to die if they get sick? If a 45 year old lived a terrible lifestyle and is broke and can't afford health insurance or healthcare, what do you think should happen to them?
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