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Old 04-01-2012, 04:28 PM
 
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Never thought I'd be excited about a Republican Convention! I just read a pretty good article on Ron Paul and the possibilities.
Rumors of Ron Paul campaign demise greatly exaggerated | Washington Times Communities
There is no way in hell the GOP establishment would let Paul even come near the nomination.
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Old 04-01-2012, 04:32 PM
 
Location: West Egg
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Never thought I'd be excited about a Republican Convention! I just read a pretty good article on Ron Paul and the possibilities.
Rumors of Ron Paul campaign demise greatly exaggerated | Washington Times Communities
Wow!

Paul must be pretty busy these days, vetting VP candidates and pondering his cabinet picks ...
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Old 04-01-2012, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Never thought I'd be excited about a Republican Convention! I just read a pretty good article on Ron Paul and the possibilities.
Rumors of Ron Paul campaign demise greatly exaggerated | Washington Times Communities
I'm an Obama supporter I would love it if a brokered convention were to happen, and this whole circus of a Primary became even that much crazier.

With that being said, I'm also a realist and good at math. Even if the Paul supporters are able to wrestle away a decent amount of the delegates away from Romney in the caucus states, its not going to be enough to keep Romney away from 1144 on the first round of voting. You simply have too many delegates that are tied to the results or the 1st round of voting, and too many winner take all delegates by state and CD's left.

From a mathematical perspective I would like any Paul supporter (or anyone else or that matter) to try and explain how Romney will not get to 1144.

Again I would love to see the chaos of a brokered convention transpire, but the math simply isn't there.
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Old 04-01-2012, 04:56 PM
 
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What election are you looking at?

If there's no GOP nominee on the first ballot, we WILL lose in November. If there's any kind of floor fight or multiple rounds of balloting, it doesn't matter whether the nominee is Romney, Paul, or Chris Christie. The party will be in disarray (especially if it is Paul), we will lose any chance of the Senate, and we will shoot ourselves in the foot with regards to holding a strong House majority. Obama will cruise to re-election.
The party is already in disarray. Republicans obviously learned nothing from their attempt at running McCain as a viable candidate.
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Old 04-01-2012, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The party is already in disarray. Republicans obviously learned nothing from their attempt at running McCain as a viable candidate.
McCain was a viable candidate.

However, the 2008 election would not have been a viable one for any Republican candidate after W's presidency and with the economy in a freefall with a Republican in the White House at the time (likewise, it would not have been a viable election for any Democratic candidate if a Democrat had been in the White House at the time).

And the ditz from Wasilla being his running mate made the election even harder for McCain.

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Old 04-01-2012, 06:07 PM
 
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McCain was a viable candidate.

However, the 2008 election would not have been a viable one for any Republican candidate after W's presidency and with the economy in a freefall. And the ditz from Wasilla being his running mate made the election even harder for McCain.
A viable Republican candidate would not have a voting record in the Senate that shows him to be little other than a Democrat in Republican clothing. A viable Republican candidate would not have allowed the "ditz from Wasilla" to be his running mate.

McCain was the penultimate politician. He had a long and well established history of liberal voting despite having been elected as a supposed conservative.

Thanks for further illustrating you care little about principle and a lot about party. Those that embrace your mindset are largely responsible for the mess our political system has become.
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Old 04-01-2012, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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A viable Republican candidate would not have a voting record in the Senate that shows him to be little other than a Democrat in Republican clothing. A viable Republican candidate would not have allowed the "ditz from Wasilla" to be his running mate.

McCain was the penultimate politician. He had a long and well established history of liberal voting despite having been elected as a supposed conservative.

Thanks for further illustrating you care little about principle and a lot about party. Those that embrace your mindset are largely responsible for the mess our political system has become.

McCain's voting record had long been conservative. He is in no way shape or form than a Democrat in Republican's clothing. I am a Democrat, and his voting record was no where even remotely close to the most conservative Democrat (Ben Nelson) and well to the right of the Snowe, Collins wing of the Party. He drifted further and further right during Bush's 2nd term, and ran on a platform WELL to the right of where he ran in 2000.
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Old 04-01-2012, 06:27 PM
 
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McCain's voting record had long been conservative. He is in no way shape or form than a Democrat in Republican's clothing. I am a Democrat, and his voting record was no where even remotely close to the most conservative Democrat (Ben Nelson) and well to the right of the Snowe, Collins wing of the Party. He drifted further and further right during Bush's 2nd term, and ran on a platform WELL to the right of where he ran in 2000.
I'd suggest your idea of conservative and mine have little in common.
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:09 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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In other words, the media tells the average voter who to like and who to vote for and who to hate. Sounds very plausible, and it works


Even if they have to lie through their teeth, to do so.
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:12 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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McCain's voting record had long been conservative. He is in no way shape or form than a Democrat in Republican's clothing. I am a Democrat, and his voting record was no where even remotely close to the most conservative Democrat (Ben Nelson) and well to the right of the Snowe, Collins wing of the Party. He drifted further and further right during Bush's 2nd term, and ran on a platform WELL to the right of where he ran in 2000.


McCain a Conservative? LOL! Seriously?

He has been a Progressive, in the Republican party for years and like Mitt Romney, he is not afraid to tell you that he is.

That goes for Lindsey Graham, too!!!
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