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Old 04-03-2012, 02:25 PM
 
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I'd throw the book at them, send a message that this sort of crap won't be tolerated.

Then I'd suggest a look at ballot qualifying requirements: Are the signature requirements to get on the ballot unreasonably high? Santorum and Gingrich didn't qualify in some states. Obviously fraud is NOT an appropriate response, but perhaps the hurdles are a bit high on both sides of the aisle?
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Old 04-03-2012, 02:30 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Damn crooked Democrats.
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:00 PM
 
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You are being too literal, maybe anally so. It was a rhetorical question, but even in its rhetoric, still asked the question to those who say 'both sides' do it, why not voter id laws?

If election fraud is bad if a Republican does it, then why not take a step to tighten things up? If election fraud is bad if a Democrat does it, then why not take a step to tighten things up?

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How would the current voter id laws, or Indiana's own voter id law have prevented this case of election fraud?
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:55 PM
 
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Obama was the ONE who was desperate to win at any cost. That is what ACORN'S sole purpose was -

STEAL THE VOTE!!
Good God.

It's not that the country totally rejected the way our government handled things from 2000-08, and therefore didn't pick the candidate who was going to continue doing the same.

It's not that the Republican Vice Presidential Candidate reminded the country of the fool who was in office at the time.

It's not that the Democratic character was an exceptional person who was promising to end the failed and unpopular policies* of the previous 8 years...

...no, its "ZOMG VOTER FRAUD ACORN TEH BLACK PANTHERZ STANIN DERE INTIMEHDATING PEOPL!!1!".

Everyone knew who was winning by October 2008, and he won by 10 million votes. Get over it. He's not being impeached. He's not being arrested. He's serving his term and if elected in 2012, he WILL be in office till 2017. Once again: GET OVER IT.

(*But he didn't. Which is why the country is still on the road to ruin and his party took major losses in 2010.)

BTW, I love how anyone who suggests any foul play in the 2000 election, is a "liberal nutjob". The election was decided by 537 votes, and the person in charge of stopping or starting a recount worked for George Bush. But no, you're wrong to question it. 537 votes? Nah, no way the outcome could be swayed. 10,000,000, though? VOTER FRAUD.
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Point Hope Alaska
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Acorn is a model organisation and should not have had their government funding cut off.

It's not that the Democratic character was an exceptional person who was promising to end the failed and unpopular policies* of the previous 8 years..

Yes an exceptional character that needed 800 billion for shovel ready jobs talk about failed policies like Solyndra and all the others that went into bankruptcy. Yes we have an exceptional character that is an undocumented worker. I will get over it when that f'n idiot is arrested.
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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You are being too literal, maybe anally so. It was a rhetorical question, but even in its rhetoric, still asked the question to those who say 'both sides' do it, why not voter id laws?

If election fraud is bad if a Republican does it, then why not take a step to tighten things up? If election fraud is bad if a Democrat does it, then why not take a step to tighten things up?
Why not do it?

Because there is no information that would indicate that the current wave of new voter id laws correct a substantial problem that is occurring, while there is evidence that implementing stricter voter id laws will disenfranchise long term voters.

If you want to attack election fraud then implement procedures to stop the fraud that is actually occurring. That should be the litmus test, does the change address a real issue.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Good God.

It's not that the country totally rejected the way our government handled things from 2000-08, and therefore didn't pick the candidate who was going to continue doing the same.

It's not that the Republican Vice Presidential Candidate reminded the country of the fool who was in office at the time.
...
Your point, of course, is that the presidential election of 2008 was a national temper tantrum.

I agree.
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Old 04-04-2012, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Yes an exceptional character that needed 800 billion for shovel ready jobs talk about failed policies like Solyndra and all the others that went into bankruptcy. Yes we have an exceptional character that is an undocumented worker. I will get over it when that f'n idiot is arrested.
lol
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Old 04-05-2012, 07:09 AM
 
Location: NC
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How would the current voter id laws, or Indiana's own voter id law have prevented this case of election fraud?
Bingo. Most cases of election fraud have nothing to do with ID's. And often involve people with some sort of access to large amounts of vote.
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Old 04-05-2012, 07:13 AM
 
Location: NC
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You are being too literal, maybe anally so. It was a rhetorical question, but even in its rhetoric, still asked the question to those who say 'both sides' do it, why not voter id laws?

If election fraud is bad if a Republican does it, then why not take a step to tighten things up? If election fraud is bad if a Democrat does it, then why not take a step to tighten things up?
Some people believe the way the ID laws are being implemented do more harm then good. That is why you will see liberals go up in arms about it.

Me personally, I have no problem with an ID but at the same time every certified citizen should actually be required to get one IMO (surprising as it is, a lot of poor people seem not to have ID's). However, without a statuate mandating everyone must have a standardized ID, I can see where people get the disenfranchisment arguement.
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